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TPM - Arizona lawmaker opposes stricter punishment for child sex predators, saying it would harm people of color (thepostmillennial.com)
posted 5 years ago by Baron_Bubbles 5 years ago by Baron_Bubbles +45 / -0
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– Norenia 35 points 5 years ago +35 / -0

You know, I actually DON'T think black people when I think of predatory pedophiles. Is there some statistic there that I'm missing that would lead this person to say that?

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– current_horror 33 points 5 years ago +33 / -0

Ever think that maybe you've been indoctrinated by media to associate pedophilia with white men? How many depictions of pedophilia in media are the same creepy looking stock white dude? Meanwhile, they literally rape babies in Africa, pedophile consanguinity is rampant in the middle east, pakastani grooming gangs are a UK staple, human trafficking of minors in America is a disproportionately black and Hispanic crime, and homosexuals fuck minors on a cultural level.

But just like you, when I think pedophile, I think of a creepy looking white dude.

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– AbleistSL 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Blacks are definitely over-represented as sex traffickers.

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– AntonioOfVenice 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

She's one of those naïve "we can rehabilitate everyone" types. I can't disagree with her though because I dislike mandatory sentencing in general. Not all cases are equal. That's why sentencing exists in the first place.

Whether it is a good idea is a separate matter. Should the lives of people be in the hands of judges playing god based on very limited information, and guessing and speculating about the extent to which his unhappy childhood had an impact on his crime?

I say no.

Ironic because mandatory sentencing theoretically removes some potential for racial bias in sentencing by making sure no one receives undue leniency.

Not gonna work of course. The 'racial bias' they complain about is a difference in the commission of offenses. But since they can't fix that part, they just want to release people until the numbers are proportional.

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– AntonioOfVenice 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Sentencing maximums are fine. Sentencing minimums are not

Seems to me to be two sides of the same coin. If judges having more discretion to play god is good, why should there be a sentencing maximum?

It's the big league version of "zero tolerance" policies in school. Kid brings a combat knife to school intending to stab someone: expelled. Mom put a butter knife in a kid's lunch bag: expelled.

No, I don't think so. Mens rea is clearly lacking in the second case, so the analogy is flawed from the beginning. There is good reason to establish a minimum for crimes such as child molestation. What good is there to making sure that judges can go easy on a pedophile because of his unhappy childhood? It's stupid.

Jury Sentencing is a thing in some places but judge playing god with limited information or jury playing god with limited information, a more emotional state, and minimal knowledge of precedent... I think the judge is probably the lesser problem.

Judges are an enormous problem, at least here in Europe. A maximum sentence can be 20 years, and the average sentence will be 1 year.

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– Killroyomega 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Statutory rape is an every day occurrence in the black community.

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– AntonioOfVenice 16 points 5 years ago +16 / -0

As I've always said, feminism is no longer about women, but about their intersectionalist cult.

Blacks rank higher than women, so under their ideology, if a woman is raped by a man who happens to be black - that is no problem.

Hence Munich. Hence Rotherham.

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– AntonioOfVenice 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

We're talking about people who throw tantrums left and right, who are likely incapable of any sort of long-term thinking.

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