Stuff like Tolkien or C.S. Lewis are obvious, but other authors, movies, music, or entertainment might not be as well known.
So, how about a thread that lists some recommendations for things untouched by modern insanity?
Stuff like Tolkien or C.S. Lewis are obvious, but other authors, movies, music, or entertainment might not be as well known.
So, how about a thread that lists some recommendations for things untouched by modern insanity?
I'm re-watching Cheers at the moment. If it came out now it would be considered deeply misogynistic and racist. The main thing that Cheers highlights for me is how we went wrong along the way. Dianne, the annoying, liberal, feminist; who's constantly wrong about her opinions, yet never learns from them, is a figure of mockery for everyone in the bar. Not one person takes her seriously, she's constantly ridiculed. Somewhere between now and then people decide to take the Dianne's of the world seriously, and gave them power, leading to society producing many women like her. That decision is one of the many reasons that we are where we are, and that is something which must be remembered is we ever manage to reverse the situation, as it is a mistake that should not be repeated.
Same thing with simpsons. Lisa was obviously insincere in her "activisim" and only wanted attention and aggrandization for herself so she was the butt of a lot of jokes, but in a good natured way. But somewhere along the way that flipped to "lisa is always right".
This is still the highlight of the Simpson’s previous ability to shove Lisa’s BS right back in her face:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fnRt_JEoBRU
The comments to that video are full of quoting Knuckles' feminism potshot at Amy.
Sadly undermined by Knuckles' claim to be a feminist, as if feminism and its obsession with making everything involving an individual woman something that somehow impacts ALL WOMEN isn't the very ideology he's arguing against.
I can't decide if the writers were trying to steal the rational ground and claim it for feminism, or if they were scared and felt that if they didn't have him declare himself a feminst, they'd run the risk of being accused of 'anti-feminism'.
This is a huge problem that has plagued us for a long time. It's very common to find that historic progressive intellectuals, who are now lauded as saints, were mocked and derided by their contempories. Foucault and Derrida being the most obvious examples. It even applies to the declaration of independence, although I'm still a fan of it as an American.
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Just seeing the thread title I was going to post a rec for Cheers. There are some shows I liked in my youth that have held up like shit, and then on the other end of the spectrum there's Cheers. I think it's gotten better with age, when compared against the crapola on TV these days. The humor - especially in the first 3-4 seasons - is hyper-literate while still being accessible. It's in a completely different universe from whatever today's crop of smirky midwit hipster asshole TV writers are barfing out. I never really thought about the show being especially woke or anti-woke, but it's funny as hell and there's some stuff in it that I'm sure people would get their panties in a wad about today (how homosexuality is dealt with, relatively few black people, etc.). Probably my favorite TV series of all time.
As far as other boomer sitcoms, I'll put in a plug for The Jeffersons and Sanford & Son. Both are basically not a hell of a lot more than insult comedy showcases for their respective stars, but holy shit is it really good insult comedy. Black people ripping on white people, other black people, Latinos, Asians, etc., and we can all laugh about it. Basically how real life should be.
Actually, add "In Living Color" to that list, too. If Fox were to air any Vera De Milo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9pdX_D8eHY) or Men on Films (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4ojGuA33X4) skit in 2021, it would likely end up with their headquarters being burned to the ground, but back in the early '90s this sort of thing was known as "comedy".
As a white person who mocked that BLM Army "bullpup" twat, I dissent. Stupid people of any race/religion/"lifestyle" deserve mockery, and all they can get.
I'd throw Three's Company in as another show that would drive SJWs into a frothing madness, but still holds up in humor and entertainment today.