I don't totally agree with that. "Knowledge And Decisions" really had an impact on my thinking.
There's a problem with the middle-class. They seem to just accept all """authoritative""" information as gospel, even when it is contradictory.
It comes from a pattern of behavior among the mid-wits that seems to twist contradiction as sophistication. I'll try to explain:
When you first learn something, it can be really confusing at first... but once you understand it, you feel like you understand the deeper meaning of what's going on. In physics, I've seen a ton of this. That's because in physics, you're using more advanced mathematics and whole different ways of thinking about problems all the time than most people are used to. Problems are often very difficult to wrap your head around until you understand the deeper mechanics of what's going on. There's a "Eureka!" moment that lots of people have when trying to solve more and more difficult problems. To be clear, this is a kind of emotional high that you'll have when you discover something.
There are all sorts of little moments like this, like: learning that you can rotate axis to simplify problems, learning how to break problems into component parts, learning how integral & differential calculus is how formulas are invented from their basic mathematical assumptions, understanding that portions of mathematics (like the natural exponent) are discovered rather than invented. All sorts of little things.
However, Leftist psuedo-science doesn't have any of this... so they invent it.
The acceptance of a contradictory statement becomes the Eureka moment for the midwits. They mistake being bamboozled for confusion, and acceptance for learning. The authority figure just signals to them that it's safe to accept the conclusion.
Like this:
SJW: "She has a penis."
Lowwit: "Ha! Good one. Boys have dics, not girls."
Midwit: "Ha ha ha! That's ridiculous".
Highwit: "You've use a contradiction in terms. I'm not taking you seriously."
SJW: Authority: "Actually..."
Lowwit: "???"
Midwit: "???"
Highwit: "Oh god."
SJW: Authority: "... when you define women correctly, of course they can have penii."
Midwit: "Ahhhh... I see."
Highwit: "What? No! You can't just re-define the terms of a premise in an argument!"
Lowwit: "You say that because you like dick, and hide your gay."
SJW: Authority: "Don't listen to them midwit! You're smarter than even highwit now! You are very smart."
Midwit: "Yes! I am very smart."
Highwit: "You're both fucking stupid."
Lowwit: "Midwit tried this on me last week."
Where I think this all comes from is that the 'midwit' grouping is having their life experiences be dictated and controlled by authority figures. They are acting as slaves to an authority which is conditioning them, and giving them experiences through indoctrination, which is contradicting their normal life. The more they ingest corporate media, authority, and propaganda; the more the propaganda defines their lives, rather than their own experiences.
The Lowwits and Highwits are experiencing a different series of events because they are both not ingesting corporatist doctrine. The highwits because they recognize it, and the lowwits because corporatism doesn't benefit them. The lowwits basically live and learn from their experiences for better or worse. If they live in worse conditions, they learn worse lessons. Corporate conditions don't exist for them, and if they do, it's in an adversarial nature. The highwits are capable of recognizing the deception of corporatism, and reject it voluntarily.
What I'm saying is that the normies and midwits need to be stripped of their corporate protectionism, so that they can actually have experiences without the filter of corporate indoctrination and dogma which is supplanting their normal responses to stimuli, and giving them a completely twisted sense of knowledge.
Or, in a more lowwit manner: The boys have to learn.
If you're in this sub you're probably in the highwit variety or between midwit and highwit.
All I know is I don't know everything, and I run into too many midwits that think they know everything. Reddit is a very good representation of this.
If you try to contradict the SJW authorative opinion on something (i.e. arguing that the election was rigged, or that COVID lockdowns is killing people and destroying lives more than keeping things open) there are too many midwits there that they essentially argue/yell you down/downvote you to a point where you are unable to bring a highwit opinion to the table to prove them wrong.
Lowwits are difficult to convince because they just don't care. I know a LOT of lowwit types on Discord and they unironically post shit from MSM and when I argue against them about bias they say "I don't know, I just look at whatever is on the frontpage of Google News".
They are going to be totally informed by experience. I know a lot of poor and lowwit people who will simply come to me because they know that a) I can be trusted, b) I can do not require that they believe me and I'll walk them through my claims, and c) I've been reliable in the past.
Lowwit people are going to much more heavily rely on their personal experiences, and social groups as a filters of human capital and intellect. They don't really know how to process intellectual arguments, but they also know when they're being taken advantage of, which was the reason for my example "midwit tried that on me last week.". They know a con when they see it... most of the time. They may even be committing them. These social circles provide collectively available human capital to anyone within the group, including to people who are not intellectually capable of having that human capital available to themselves, because someone in the group has had an experience and generated knowledge to share among the group.
On that note, if their personal experience doesn't obviously relate to anyone who is identifying themselves as cultural Marxists; they won't understand the long-winded ideological and historical background that led a Marxist to their little social circle. So, they won't be able to heed a warning if you try to explain it to them from an intellectual narrative.
If you're trying to warn a low-wit person about the problems with trans activist gender camps. You don't explain that the camps exist to isolate kids in an environment that normalizes degeneracy and self-harm through making their self-identification dependent on Marxist collectivist narratives; and that there will be behavior pathologies that emerge from those resentment based narratives. You tell them, "They're poofs and nonces that want your kids to be poofs and nonces, whether they are or aren't." It's true, but eliminated the frill. They'll only believe you, if they can trust you.
The use of proper social networks to filter human capital allows them to be much more difficult to control from a propagandistic narrative. The corporatists and statists have to infiltrate social groups, which is all but impossible at any reasonable scale for a corporation. This is why Marxists infiltrated and attacked social institutions wherever they could find them. It's why we have to go around creating anti-Marxist institutions to replace them with.
All wits of people will be able to rely on our social institutions to protect them from Marxist dogma, and share experiences that will inform that wariness of Marxism.
I always consider those the stupidest. Those throughout history who are considered the smartest people ever (i.e. Tesla, Einstein, Da Vinci, Newton, Plato) never thought of themselves as knowing everything.
I'm always looking to learn and question things myself. I may or may not come to a shared conclusion with someone else, but at least I thought about it and it came from my own mind.
Seen it in physics too. The only thing you can say is that you're really smart at a couple things. After that, you have to acknowledge the limitations of your knowledge.
We have to strip the cathedral at every level. Protectionism is the promise of the authoritarians running it.
So, a good first step is already happening: undermine that protectionist claim.
However, it can't be enough to just undermine it, but to completely subvert and poison the concept. "Look what they will do to you". We must eradicate trust in the institution. It's not enough for them to be skeptical of it, we need to promote the tearing of it apart.
This causes unease in those who are not prepared to protect themselves. So the second step is to push the heroic narrative on each individual to be able to protect themselves. Leadership not only through example, but inspiration as well. We must present them with an affirmative narrative where they can accept and believe that they will be better off governing themselves, then having others govern for them. We must promote a strong sense of individualism and individual attainment. Instead of "Don't raise taxes", say "keep your money". Instead of "cut government spending", say "they can't spend for you." Really push the idea of: only you know best for you.
Now that you have a strong individual, you need a strong community. Each person must be the pillar of their community, over-lapping with one another. New individuals must be able to join a community of people that will offer affiliates, that are anti-parallel to the establishment system.
We must have radical divestment from the establishment system wherever possible. We must exist in anti-parallel to them. We must be pushing the opposite direction.
I can't stress enough that it is imperative to re-individuate people. The establishment supports de-individuation in order to maintain collectivism and propagate emotional abuse & conditioning. Individuation must be a core focus of what we do and the rhetoric we use in order to separate people from the establishment system and make them anti-fragile. They have been given learned helplessness, and we must teach them strength. A heroic narrative is a critical aspect to that.
As I've said before, I do not believe the Cathedral has the ability to stop low level anti-parallel institutional development. The anti-Left continues to have predominantly hard power, rather than soft. Coming from a former occupier of a country, soft power without hard power backing you up is a weak position that will get you killed once someone figures it out.
As time goes on, people will continue defy and engage in mild, but unapologetic civil disobedience or simple anti-establishment disruption. Each strike further demonstrates the weakness of the establishment to project it's power, while the anti-establishment forces learn how to press their advantages.
There is no question in my mind that violence will inevitably erupt considering the hard-power differences, and the need for violence as a force multiplier to be applied as the establishment flails around ever more ineffectively.
The reason they are scrambling to push rhetoric about counter-insurgency is because the anti-establishment's revolutionary rhetoric is going to slowly start turning into genuine insurgent actions, and there's very little they can do about it without conceding power. One of the primary lessons in Iraq about counter-insurgency was about giving up power and influence to local bodies that were capable of managing their own affairs, but were prepared to relent to your authority over one issue: terrorist violence.
This is why violence from the anti-establishment needs to be dissuaded. The establishment needs violence in order to help legitimize themselves as 'the only people that can protect you'. What everyone else needs to do is poison that protectionism.
The unfortunate part about WSB is that because it was hosted on a centralized platform it got taken over by a lot of far leftists - they started bringing in people like Mark Cuban etc for AMAs and then the original mods were kicked out.
Any attempt at re-individuation on authoritarian platforms like Reddit gets squashed easily.
Right, this why you need anti-parallel institutions like us.
Re-individuation is highest form of subversion in an authoritarian system. The authoritarian system intentionally de-individuates people to make them independent. But individuation will make the slaves more confident, competent, secretive, and productive. It starts out with the master being glad his slaves are taking responsibility, only to be stunned to find his slaves are hiding things from him, only to batter them down into submission. But the submission backfires because of the gained confidence in the individual slave. The slave no longer accepts the beating as a just criticism of himself, but as an unjust attack by someone who is less competent than them, which feeds their resentment of enslavement and pushes them towards separation.
Once they get purged, they need to come to our anti-parallel institutions.
Hmm, there's something here, something about a link between this individuation and atomization.
Atomization strips away social support, which has many effects, but I can see one big desirable effect being reliance on authority. I've been toying with the idea that it may be possible to teach an atomized individual how to become..well, ubermensch, basically.
Most of the principles behind strategic atomization seem to rely on the targets all breaking. But if they come out stronger instead of weaker, that'd be a sight.
I've been thinking of how a children's book aimed towards atomized children might be comical enough to get published (basically teaching basics of living like a beast surrounded by enemies, older ages get lessons on humanity).
Do you have any thoughts on the relevance of atomization towards your topic? This'll really bug me for a while, so I want some more data to work with.
Many people are authoritarian minded (because our society is), and they don't get the idea of emergent order. Austrian Economics is built on it, and in physics we see it naturally occur literally all the time. But many people think order can only be imposed on a system, rather than arise naturally.
Atomization is not a normal situation. It's a situation where an individual is permanently and continually stripped of affiliations and communities he might otherwise naturally form.
Individualism isn't the same as atomization. Individualism allows the individual to make those communities as he desires. There is no reason for him to be an element onto his own if he does not seek it. This is why communities develop. Forming social groups is such a basic-bitch concept of human interaction it would take perpetual social conditioning, institutional pressures, and technological persuasion from extremely powerful actors that profit off of atomitizing people 24/7 through constant maintenance to even have such a society function in such an atomitized way.
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shit
Now, I will say that I'm a fairly atomitized individual. However, the reason for that is an extremely arrested development stemming from abuse. Part of the reason I'm intellectually focused the way I am is because all of my neurological development and cognitive skill went into trying to think my way into surviving problems. The reason I don't naturally socialize with people is because that is not skill I have sufficiently developed yet.
But that should tell you how abnormal the conditioning has to actually be to make people self-atomitizing. It has to be a form of perpetual psychological conditioning, and applied at an early enough age that you don't have earlier social interactions to fall back on.
Don't let your kids use cellphones or spend all their time on the internet.
I've been thinking of how a children's book aimed towards atomized children might be comical enough to get published (basically teaching basics of living like a beast surrounded by enemies, older ages get lessons on humanity).
This one's very hard, I know from personal experience.
Books are not really enough. You really kind of require psychological counseling. It's like asking, "what kind of children's book would your write for kids who've been sexually abused?" You can, but you should really talk to professionals about how child psychology copes with that level of abuse. Similarly, an atomitized child is probably on the edge of suicide for significant social isolation, learned helplessness, de-individuation, and lacking any clear social value.
The kids who are surviving well in an atomitized environment, have adapted to atomization by self-isolating as methodology of risk mitigation. This means that they are self-atomizing as a way to control potential external risks. This is a purely defensive cognitive behavior. This kid has to learn how to expose himself to risk, and then also have the confidence to withstand the fairly common failure that will come with many early attempts. For someone who has no social value, this is a terribly complex problem without either external assistance from professionals or descending into narcissism. They've never moderated their behavior before, so they don't know when to moderate their confidence nor their self-doubt. This means, emotionally, everything's going to hurt at first until they learn to take it. That's a very tough prospect to try and self-teach. This is why a professional acting as a support system is so vital.
Imagine a kid attempting to learn how to swim in a pond near his house, with no supervision or guidance. This isn't even a controlled environment. It's genuinely dangerous. This kid would have to have an extremely high level of determination to learn and an extreme pain threshold for near constant failure because he doesn't even have the basics down, and can't reference any. That's a ton of physical work, significant pain, even more discipline, and truly high levels of obstinance in a person who likely to quit because it's already familiar.
On the other hand, a child may go the entirely opposite direction. They may determine all of their value from external social responses. This kid isn't going to just be some "social butterfly". They're going to be too outgoing. They're going to either be a class clown always seeking positive attention, they may be attention-whoring, they may obsessed with social signalling, they may even become sexually deviant in order to garner positive attention as they turn into teens. This is actually, probably, as worse result. This person is going to have tons of ingrained self-destructive behaviors that exist because they have no ability to moderate their emotions, and no ability to maintain any self-confidence outside of social conditioning. These kids are going to drown their loneliness in really bad things.
These kids are going to need a completely different approach. They'll need to learn how to have self-confidence as well as stoicism to deal with rejection, failure, and manipulation.
Basically, you have to write a children's book that is addressed to the different children's behavioral pathologies that have emerged from the atomization. One is the """conservative""" pathology, and the other is the """"liberal"""" pathology for a better terms.
Luckily, we've conversed before so I'll replace them with "resistor" mental pathologies, and "inductor" mental pathologies.
Now, I will say that I'm a fairly atomitized individual. However, the reason for that is an extremely arrested development stemming from abuse. Part of the reason I'm intellectually focused the way I am is because all of my neurological development and cognitive skill went into trying to think my way into surviving problems. The reason I don't naturally socialize with people is because that is not skill I have sufficiently developed yet.
Ayy, I found another! I'll limit my divulgence of details because I'm trying to break the habit - sometimes it's hard to stop talking about personal shit. But it's on topic and I sort of have to play my hand for this conversation.
I went through some shit. Missing some chunks of memory, been spending the past several years learning how to feel anger because I rather successfully sealed up the little problems that I had control over. The parts I remember I still have nightmares about. I don't go outside much because I shut down if I encounter one specific personality type (only ever encountered two).
You learn some interesting things as a person when you're forced into extreme situations for long periods of time. You know this, surely. One of my takeaways - once I understood just how my life was different than others I spoke to - was that I don't want anyone to go through what I did. Not much you can do there, but for the sad fuck stuck in that world, I want to reach out with some advice that could've helped me. Like, just something simple like "Some people really do want you to be miserable and will do anything they can to achieve it" would have helped me avoid a lot of anguish if I'd learned it earlier.
I've spent many years seeing psychologists and using psychiatric drugs (stopped the pills, not worth it). Most of that effort was pure curiousity; I needed to understand how I worked. I often advise for others to give it a try, but a good friend you can open up to is WAY better in my experience.
They're going to be too outgoing. They're going to either be a class clown always seeking positive attention,
I hit an interesting roadbump around this matter. This was the path I started on, but then I got misdiagnosed with ADHD and forced onto an overdose of ritalin right around puberty. Boy, that was like flipping a switch, I became crippled by anxiety. "Your grades are better now, so you're staying on this medicine". The anxiety made avoiding some of the worse outcomes easier, at least.
So I think my motive is clear, but I'll spell it out because I can: I want to help other people overcome the hurdles that I could not (and the ones I could, I want others to overcome them with less struggle). I would've been a psych major like the other failures but I hate writing papers. But no, I'm probably not gonna seriously publish such a thing and put it in stores. If anything, I'd just post it online somewhere and probably never reach the intended audience.
Tell me just one thing, I'm really curious since I've never really identified a person with similarly poor youth. What's your friend making process like? Mine is an intense probing to feel out boundaries mixed with some bait to see if they're prone to behaviors that would put me off. I had to develop some awkward strategies to get sufficient data because people are surprisingly reluctant to open up to others. I'd be surprised if you had a similar issue with your process, but I'm betting it's an area you struggle with as well.
This is the most intelligent thing I've read in awhile. Really great breakdown you got there. Whether you're a lowwit or a highwit we all know the midwits, often thinking they're smarter than they are, because as you pointed out, that's what they've been told by authority and that's where they derive their truth. I remember getting ganged up on by a group of midwits who thought it was soo novel that they could call me out for being a white male. As if they had just discovered enlightenment, and now they where the elites. It was kinda weird, but the way you broke it down, now the whole exchange makes sense.
Yeah, I used to do it a bit myself from time to time. You have to catch yourself.
I've also been on the entirely opposite end of it.
I was derided for pointing out that American culture exists, but we don't typically experience it as such because most people haven't gone without it.
The exchange went fairly simply. It was a discussion in my ASL class in college about culture, and recognizing culture. Someone mentioned that clearly deaf people had a culture (once it was explained to us about how deaf people genuinely do behave differently among other deaf people and communicate with them in ways that they don't with hearing people, which is reasonable). I mentioned the concept that, to a degree: all social groups have a culture of some kind, even businesses. I pointed out that American culture tends to be very distinct, but most people didn't notice that because they've never really lived outside of American society or culture for very long. I mentioned in my experience that I was quite glad to re-experience American culture when you aren't living in it.
This is such an obviously true statement, you wouldn't think I'd even need to defend it.
However, I did have to defend it because one classmate, with the support of a few others, explicitly claimed that American culture didn't exist, and wasn't a positive even if it did, because only other places had cultures that were unique. Everybody here lived in a similar way, and therefore it didn't have a culture, and my opinion wasn't educated.
Another student spoke up and agreed with me because she had lived abroad, and pointed out that... yes... American culture exists. She, too, valued our unique approach to personal liberty and individual rights.
She was also dismissed, and gawfed at. My critics were quickly turning into mean-girls.
I was going to give an elaborate explanation about how social groups of any kind had to have their own cultures and social morays. But before I could even finish my first sentence, a little clique of 3 of them literally started laughing and snickering classic mean-girls style.
After a very tense pause, I threw my hands up and said "Fuck it, I'm done". After realizing that very bad things would happen to my chances of graduation had I done or said any of the things that were rolling through my head.
The Midwits are informed by "official sources" that their opinions are correct and conform to the correct narrative. After that, they use their sense of smug self-entitlement to deride others and affirm themselves in their moral superiority. That's why I've always felt that it was important to confront Leftists directly on their moral high-ground. It's actually never as well defended as they think because they've never properly interrogated their own beliefs.
That's why I've always felt that it was important to confront Leftists directly on their moral high-ground. It's actually never as well defended as they think because they've never properly interrogated their own beliefs.
Can you elaborate on this point? Are you saying attack them on their morality, their sense of authority, or are you suggesting something else entirely?
So, it's an old military tactic that is very dangerous, but very useful for winning battles quickly against an enemy that is not competently prepared or trained; or if they are unfamiliar with longer and more drawn out fights. You make a full, frontal, spear-head assault on the enemy's strongest point, but you have to be very aggressive about it. As soon as you break the strongest point, hit every other point and overwhelm them, causing a route of their position.
What the Leftist typically does is prepare an assault against the right wing, which is typically making strong static defenses. Static defenses are nice in war, but they are never optimal. Given infinite time and resources, all static defenses will be breached. This is a fact.
What a Leftist will typically does is prepare for a siege by hitting many points, and keeping you on the defensive; or they try to hit you from many different angles until your cognitive overload gets the better of you, and you give you an insane run-around that makes them look pseudo-competent as if they know more (when they are just attacking different positions hoping something will stick.
Fundamentally, they are not prepared for an overly aggressive frontal assault on their strongest point, and are not prepared to hold a defensive posture for any length of time.
To answer your question: I'm saying attack them on the underlying emotional position they are hanging their hat on. If it is a sense of self-righteousness (and normally it is), then attack their entire moral framework and perspective from the ground up and unrepentantly unacceptable and abominable. Make them defend their own moral philosophy, and they normally aren't prepared for it. If it is a reliance on authority, then question their competence. Their reliance on authority is the result of a fundamental ignorance about the nuance of the issue, and your priority should be to expose that nuance.
It sounds harsh, but the truth is, an honest person who isn't engaging in rhetorical warfare is simply going to accept you elaborating your position, so you will very clearly and quickly have no need to launch an attack.
It looks like this:
SJW: "That's racist. Your statement is racist and anti-black."
Me: "I'm sorry, who made you the arbiter of blackness again? Where did you gain the authority to speak on behalf of all black people about what is and is not offensive. Or did you just assume that you had that authority because you're a white feminist?"
SJW: "What? No! Excuse you. What you are saying is anti-black and everyone knows it."
Me: "No, high priestess of the black experience, it isn't known by everyone. You are stepping in as a white savior and claiming to speak on behalf of black people based on your own narcissistic assumptions about how really awesome and swell of a person you are. Here's the problem. When you jump in and start claiming to speak on behalf of the black race, you are acting in a racist manner because you think black people need your help. They don't need you. No one needs you."
SJW: absolutely outraged by this point "What you said was racist and offensive! It was anti-black and you are just being unnecessarily rude and racist!"
Me: "Black people don't need help from your white opinions. The only thing offensive here is your racist white salvation complex."
What did I do? I didn't even engage in the topic. I didn't even counter-argue against their claim of what I said was anti-black. I attacked their moral and authoritative foundation from the very start. I'm not even giving them a counter-argument. I don't want that to be the argument. I want the argument to be about whether or not this person even has the right to speak at all. I've denied her moral authority to speak, her appeal to authority, and I've thrown her identity politics back in her own face. It's very contentious, and I've yet to see anyone respond to it without either retreating to the defensive, or desperately trying to counter-argue entirely different points to derail my counter-attack.
Now, a normal person is never this aggressive, and a probing attack would prove it quickly.
Normal person: "Dude, that's racist."
Me: "And you are the arbiter racism?"
Normie: "Well, no. It just seems racist to say that blacks commit 50% of murders despite making up 13% of the population."
Me: "Well, why? Disparity isn't evidence of racism, and facts simply exist. Look, Of all people that commit murder, the vast majority are between the age of 14-35. Would claim that that is "ageist"?
Normie: "... well, I guess not."
Normies don't actually want to get into ideological or political arguments because a) It can get really hostile if an SJW shows up, b) they are normally utterly unequipped to deal with it from a philosophical or ideological stand-point. Normies are like Civilians in war. Do not intentionally target them if you can avoid it. If you launch an attack and you realize you raided the wrong place, be very apologetic and replace the door you kicked in.
Well, and there in lies the problem. The places, states, and cities that care about their rights have already said they will not tolerate such measures. And when pushed they have pushed back. I have seen it in my own state, where Dodge City chased out their mayor and got her to resign because of an overwhelming backlash when she attempted to enforce a mask mandate.
But the places that will stay locked down don’t give a shit about their rights or that they are being violated, so they will mental gymnastics their way through their livelihood being destroyed over it.
In Ireland, one of our leading politicians essentially said this could go on for years. If it does, and there's no revolution, the west is officially dead.
The European countries seem more in danger than the US, even as bad as we can get, our own propensity for revolution and violence is what's saving us, to be frank.
Which is weird to say when a place as revolutionary as Ireland just kinda rolled over and accepted European colonization efforts.
The only way the COVID restrictions end is when you make them end. Nothing else.
The normies completely fell hook line and sinker for the false narrative based on emotion that the globalists created.
If they didn't wake up in the last fucking ten months, I don't expect them to ever stand up against this.
I don't totally agree with that. "Knowledge And Decisions" really had an impact on my thinking.
There's a problem with the middle-class. They seem to just accept all """authoritative""" information as gospel, even when it is contradictory.
It comes from a pattern of behavior among the mid-wits that seems to twist contradiction as sophistication. I'll try to explain:
When you first learn something, it can be really confusing at first... but once you understand it, you feel like you understand the deeper meaning of what's going on. In physics, I've seen a ton of this. That's because in physics, you're using more advanced mathematics and whole different ways of thinking about problems all the time than most people are used to. Problems are often very difficult to wrap your head around until you understand the deeper mechanics of what's going on. There's a "Eureka!" moment that lots of people have when trying to solve more and more difficult problems. To be clear, this is a kind of emotional high that you'll have when you discover something.
There are all sorts of little moments like this, like: learning that you can rotate axis to simplify problems, learning how to break problems into component parts, learning how integral & differential calculus is how formulas are invented from their basic mathematical assumptions, understanding that portions of mathematics (like the natural exponent) are discovered rather than invented. All sorts of little things.
However, Leftist psuedo-science doesn't have any of this... so they invent it.
The acceptance of a contradictory statement becomes the Eureka moment for the midwits. They mistake being bamboozled for confusion, and acceptance for learning. The authority figure just signals to them that it's safe to accept the conclusion.
Like this:
SJW: "She has a penis."
Lowwit: "Ha! Good one. Boys have dics, not girls."
Midwit: "Ha ha ha! That's ridiculous".
Highwit: "You've use a contradiction in terms. I'm not taking you seriously."
SJW:Authority: "Actually..."Lowwit: "???"
Midwit: "???"
Highwit: "Oh god."
SJW:Authority: "... when you define women correctly, of course they can have penii."Midwit: "Ahhhh... I see."
Highwit: "What? No! You can't just re-define the terms of a premise in an argument!"
Lowwit: "You say that because you like dick, and hide your gay."
SJW:Authority: "Don't listen to them midwit! You're smarter than even highwit now! You are very smart."Midwit: "Yes! I am very smart."
Highwit: "You're both fucking stupid."
Lowwit: "Midwit tried this on me last week."
Where I think this all comes from is that the 'midwit' grouping is having their life experiences be dictated and controlled by authority figures. They are acting as slaves to an authority which is conditioning them, and giving them experiences through indoctrination, which is contradicting their normal life. The more they ingest corporate media, authority, and propaganda; the more the propaganda defines their lives, rather than their own experiences.
The Lowwits and Highwits are experiencing a different series of events because they are both not ingesting corporatist doctrine. The highwits because they recognize it, and the lowwits because corporatism doesn't benefit them. The lowwits basically live and learn from their experiences for better or worse. If they live in worse conditions, they learn worse lessons. Corporate conditions don't exist for them, and if they do, it's in an adversarial nature. The highwits are capable of recognizing the deception of corporatism, and reject it voluntarily.
What I'm saying is that the normies and midwits need to be stripped of their corporate protectionism, so that they can actually have experiences without the filter of corporate indoctrination and dogma which is supplanting their normal responses to stimuli, and giving them a completely twisted sense of knowledge.
Or, in a more lowwit manner: The boys have to learn.
Now I'm trying to figure out if I'm a lowwit or a highwit. Definitely not a midwit. Maybe I'm a nitwit, is that an option?
If you're in this sub you're probably in the highwit variety or between midwit and highwit.
All I know is I don't know everything, and I run into too many midwits that think they know everything. Reddit is a very good representation of this.
If you try to contradict the SJW authorative opinion on something (i.e. arguing that the election was rigged, or that COVID lockdowns is killing people and destroying lives more than keeping things open) there are too many midwits there that they essentially argue/yell you down/downvote you to a point where you are unable to bring a highwit opinion to the table to prove them wrong.
Lowwits are difficult to convince because they just don't care. I know a LOT of lowwit types on Discord and they unironically post shit from MSM and when I argue against them about bias they say "I don't know, I just look at whatever is on the frontpage of Google News".
I agree with your assessment on Lowwit.
They are going to be totally informed by experience. I know a lot of poor and lowwit people who will simply come to me because they know that a) I can be trusted, b) I can do not require that they believe me and I'll walk them through my claims, and c) I've been reliable in the past.
Lowwit people are going to much more heavily rely on their personal experiences, and social groups as a filters of human capital and intellect. They don't really know how to process intellectual arguments, but they also know when they're being taken advantage of, which was the reason for my example "midwit tried that on me last week.". They know a con when they see it... most of the time. They may even be committing them. These social circles provide collectively available human capital to anyone within the group, including to people who are not intellectually capable of having that human capital available to themselves, because someone in the group has had an experience and generated knowledge to share among the group.
On that note, if their personal experience doesn't obviously relate to anyone who is identifying themselves as cultural Marxists; they won't understand the long-winded ideological and historical background that led a Marxist to their little social circle. So, they won't be able to heed a warning if you try to explain it to them from an intellectual narrative.
If you're trying to warn a low-wit person about the problems with trans activist gender camps. You don't explain that the camps exist to isolate kids in an environment that normalizes degeneracy and self-harm through making their self-identification dependent on Marxist collectivist narratives; and that there will be behavior pathologies that emerge from those resentment based narratives. You tell them, "They're poofs and nonces that want your kids to be poofs and nonces, whether they are or aren't." It's true, but eliminated the frill. They'll only believe you, if they can trust you.
The use of proper social networks to filter human capital allows them to be much more difficult to control from a propagandistic narrative. The corporatists and statists have to infiltrate social groups, which is all but impossible at any reasonable scale for a corporation. This is why Marxists infiltrated and attacked social institutions wherever they could find them. It's why we have to go around creating anti-Marxist institutions to replace them with.
All wits of people will be able to rely on our social institutions to protect them from Marxist dogma, and share experiences that will inform that wariness of Marxism.
I always consider those the stupidest. Those throughout history who are considered the smartest people ever (i.e. Tesla, Einstein, Da Vinci, Newton, Plato) never thought of themselves as knowing everything.
I'm always looking to learn and question things myself. I may or may not come to a shared conclusion with someone else, but at least I thought about it and it came from my own mind.
Seen it in physics too. The only thing you can say is that you're really smart at a couple things. After that, you have to acknowledge the limitations of your knowledge.
Your hesitance to consider yourself a high-wit makes think it's likely you are one.
The fool believes he knows everything.
The wise man is painfully aware of just how little he knows.
The problem remains that we have way too many normies and midwits.
The real question is how can one remove normies and midwits away from globalist/corporate brainwashing?
We have to strip the cathedral at every level. Protectionism is the promise of the authoritarians running it.
So, a good first step is already happening: undermine that protectionist claim.
However, it can't be enough to just undermine it, but to completely subvert and poison the concept. "Look what they will do to you". We must eradicate trust in the institution. It's not enough for them to be skeptical of it, we need to promote the tearing of it apart.
This causes unease in those who are not prepared to protect themselves. So the second step is to push the heroic narrative on each individual to be able to protect themselves. Leadership not only through example, but inspiration as well. We must present them with an affirmative narrative where they can accept and believe that they will be better off governing themselves, then having others govern for them. We must promote a strong sense of individualism and individual attainment. Instead of "Don't raise taxes", say "keep your money". Instead of "cut government spending", say "they can't spend for you." Really push the idea of: only you know best for you.
Now that you have a strong individual, you need a strong community. Each person must be the pillar of their community, over-lapping with one another. New individuals must be able to join a community of people that will offer affiliates, that are anti-parallel to the establishment system.
We must have radical divestment from the establishment system wherever possible. We must exist in anti-parallel to them. We must be pushing the opposite direction.
I can't stress enough that it is imperative to re-individuate people. The establishment supports de-individuation in order to maintain collectivism and propagate emotional abuse & conditioning. Individuation must be a core focus of what we do and the rhetoric we use in order to separate people from the establishment system and make them anti-fragile. They have been given learned helplessness, and we must teach them strength. A heroic narrative is a critical aspect to that.
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This sounds reasonable in theory.
I just don't see the Cathedral letting this happen on any meaningful scale.
I think what they will do this year will make 2020 look like a good year.
Before you say it, I admit that I am already pretty blackpilled by this point.
As I've said before, I do not believe the Cathedral has the ability to stop low level anti-parallel institutional development. The anti-Left continues to have predominantly hard power, rather than soft. Coming from a former occupier of a country, soft power without hard power backing you up is a weak position that will get you killed once someone figures it out.
As time goes on, people will continue defy and engage in mild, but unapologetic civil disobedience or simple anti-establishment disruption. Each strike further demonstrates the weakness of the establishment to project it's power, while the anti-establishment forces learn how to press their advantages.
There is no question in my mind that violence will inevitably erupt considering the hard-power differences, and the need for violence as a force multiplier to be applied as the establishment flails around ever more ineffectively.
The reason they are scrambling to push rhetoric about counter-insurgency is because the anti-establishment's revolutionary rhetoric is going to slowly start turning into genuine insurgent actions, and there's very little they can do about it without conceding power. One of the primary lessons in Iraq about counter-insurgency was about giving up power and influence to local bodies that were capable of managing their own affairs, but were prepared to relent to your authority over one issue: terrorist violence.
This is why violence from the anti-establishment needs to be dissuaded. The establishment needs violence in order to help legitimize themselves as 'the only people that can protect you'. What everyone else needs to do is poison that protectionism.
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The unfortunate part about WSB is that because it was hosted on a centralized platform it got taken over by a lot of far leftists - they started bringing in people like Mark Cuban etc for AMAs and then the original mods were kicked out. Any attempt at re-individuation on authoritarian platforms like Reddit gets squashed easily.
Right, this why you need anti-parallel institutions like us.
Re-individuation is highest form of subversion in an authoritarian system. The authoritarian system intentionally de-individuates people to make them independent. But individuation will make the slaves more confident, competent, secretive, and productive. It starts out with the master being glad his slaves are taking responsibility, only to be stunned to find his slaves are hiding things from him, only to batter them down into submission. But the submission backfires because of the gained confidence in the individual slave. The slave no longer accepts the beating as a just criticism of himself, but as an unjust attack by someone who is less competent than them, which feeds their resentment of enslavement and pushes them towards separation.
Once they get purged, they need to come to our anti-parallel institutions.
Hmm, there's something here, something about a link between this individuation and atomization.
Atomization strips away social support, which has many effects, but I can see one big desirable effect being reliance on authority. I've been toying with the idea that it may be possible to teach an atomized individual how to become..well, ubermensch, basically.
Most of the principles behind strategic atomization seem to rely on the targets all breaking. But if they come out stronger instead of weaker, that'd be a sight.
I've been thinking of how a children's book aimed towards atomized children might be comical enough to get published (basically teaching basics of living like a beast surrounded by enemies, older ages get lessons on humanity).
Do you have any thoughts on the relevance of atomization towards your topic? This'll really bug me for a while, so I want some more data to work with.
Many people are authoritarian minded (because our society is), and they don't get the idea of emergent order. Austrian Economics is built on it, and in physics we see it naturally occur literally all the time. But many people think order can only be imposed on a system, rather than arise naturally.
Atomization is not a normal situation. It's a situation where an individual is permanently and continually stripped of affiliations and communities he might otherwise naturally form.
Individualism isn't the same as atomization. Individualism allows the individual to make those communities as he desires. There is no reason for him to be an element onto his own if he does not seek it. This is why communities develop. Forming social groups is such a basic-bitch concept of human interaction it would take perpetual social conditioning, institutional pressures, and technological persuasion from extremely powerful actors that profit off of atomitizing people 24/7 through constant maintenance to even have such a society function in such an atomitized way.
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Now, I will say that I'm a fairly atomitized individual. However, the reason for that is an extremely arrested development stemming from abuse. Part of the reason I'm intellectually focused the way I am is because all of my neurological development and cognitive skill went into trying to think my way into surviving problems. The reason I don't naturally socialize with people is because that is not skill I have sufficiently developed yet.
But that should tell you how abnormal the conditioning has to actually be to make people self-atomitizing. It has to be a form of perpetual psychological conditioning, and applied at an early enough age that you don't have earlier social interactions to fall back on.
Don't let your kids use cellphones or spend all their time on the internet.
This one's very hard, I know from personal experience.
Books are not really enough. You really kind of require psychological counseling. It's like asking, "what kind of children's book would your write for kids who've been sexually abused?" You can, but you should really talk to professionals about how child psychology copes with that level of abuse. Similarly, an atomitized child is probably on the edge of suicide for significant social isolation, learned helplessness, de-individuation, and lacking any clear social value.
The kids who are surviving well in an atomitized environment, have adapted to atomization by self-isolating as methodology of risk mitigation. This means that they are self-atomizing as a way to control potential external risks. This is a purely defensive cognitive behavior. This kid has to learn how to expose himself to risk, and then also have the confidence to withstand the fairly common failure that will come with many early attempts. For someone who has no social value, this is a terribly complex problem without either external assistance from professionals or descending into narcissism. They've never moderated their behavior before, so they don't know when to moderate their confidence nor their self-doubt. This means, emotionally, everything's going to hurt at first until they learn to take it. That's a very tough prospect to try and self-teach. This is why a professional acting as a support system is so vital.
Imagine a kid attempting to learn how to swim in a pond near his house, with no supervision or guidance. This isn't even a controlled environment. It's genuinely dangerous. This kid would have to have an extremely high level of determination to learn and an extreme pain threshold for near constant failure because he doesn't even have the basics down, and can't reference any. That's a ton of physical work, significant pain, even more discipline, and truly high levels of obstinance in a person who likely to quit because it's already familiar.
On the other hand, a child may go the entirely opposite direction. They may determine all of their value from external social responses. This kid isn't going to just be some "social butterfly". They're going to be too outgoing. They're going to either be a class clown always seeking positive attention, they may be attention-whoring, they may obsessed with social signalling, they may even become sexually deviant in order to garner positive attention as they turn into teens. This is actually, probably, as worse result. This person is going to have tons of ingrained self-destructive behaviors that exist because they have no ability to moderate their emotions, and no ability to maintain any self-confidence outside of social conditioning. These kids are going to drown their loneliness in really bad things.
These kids are going to need a completely different approach. They'll need to learn how to have self-confidence as well as stoicism to deal with rejection, failure, and manipulation.
Basically, you have to write a children's book that is addressed to the different children's behavioral pathologies that have emerged from the atomization. One is the """conservative""" pathology, and the other is the """"liberal"""" pathology for a better terms.
Luckily, we've conversed before so I'll replace them with "resistor" mental pathologies, and "inductor" mental pathologies.
Ayy, I found another! I'll limit my divulgence of details because I'm trying to break the habit - sometimes it's hard to stop talking about personal shit. But it's on topic and I sort of have to play my hand for this conversation.
I went through some shit. Missing some chunks of memory, been spending the past several years learning how to feel anger because I rather successfully sealed up the little problems that I had control over. The parts I remember I still have nightmares about. I don't go outside much because I shut down if I encounter one specific personality type (only ever encountered two).
You learn some interesting things as a person when you're forced into extreme situations for long periods of time. You know this, surely. One of my takeaways - once I understood just how my life was different than others I spoke to - was that I don't want anyone to go through what I did. Not much you can do there, but for the sad fuck stuck in that world, I want to reach out with some advice that could've helped me. Like, just something simple like "Some people really do want you to be miserable and will do anything they can to achieve it" would have helped me avoid a lot of anguish if I'd learned it earlier.
I've spent many years seeing psychologists and using psychiatric drugs (stopped the pills, not worth it). Most of that effort was pure curiousity; I needed to understand how I worked. I often advise for others to give it a try, but a good friend you can open up to is WAY better in my experience.
I hit an interesting roadbump around this matter. This was the path I started on, but then I got misdiagnosed with ADHD and forced onto an overdose of ritalin right around puberty. Boy, that was like flipping a switch, I became crippled by anxiety. "Your grades are better now, so you're staying on this medicine". The anxiety made avoiding some of the worse outcomes easier, at least.
So I think my motive is clear, but I'll spell it out because I can: I want to help other people overcome the hurdles that I could not (and the ones I could, I want others to overcome them with less struggle). I would've been a psych major like the other failures but I hate writing papers. But no, I'm probably not gonna seriously publish such a thing and put it in stores. If anything, I'd just post it online somewhere and probably never reach the intended audience.
Tell me just one thing, I'm really curious since I've never really identified a person with similarly poor youth. What's your friend making process like? Mine is an intense probing to feel out boundaries mixed with some bait to see if they're prone to behaviors that would put me off. I had to develop some awkward strategies to get sufficient data because people are surprisingly reluctant to open up to others. I'd be surprised if you had a similar issue with your process, but I'm betting it's an area you struggle with as well.
This is the most intelligent thing I've read in awhile. Really great breakdown you got there. Whether you're a lowwit or a highwit we all know the midwits, often thinking they're smarter than they are, because as you pointed out, that's what they've been told by authority and that's where they derive their truth. I remember getting ganged up on by a group of midwits who thought it was soo novel that they could call me out for being a white male. As if they had just discovered enlightenment, and now they where the elites. It was kinda weird, but the way you broke it down, now the whole exchange makes sense.
Yeah, I used to do it a bit myself from time to time. You have to catch yourself.
I've also been on the entirely opposite end of it.
I was derided for pointing out that American culture exists, but we don't typically experience it as such because most people haven't gone without it.
The exchange went fairly simply. It was a discussion in my ASL class in college about culture, and recognizing culture. Someone mentioned that clearly deaf people had a culture (once it was explained to us about how deaf people genuinely do behave differently among other deaf people and communicate with them in ways that they don't with hearing people, which is reasonable). I mentioned the concept that, to a degree: all social groups have a culture of some kind, even businesses. I pointed out that American culture tends to be very distinct, but most people didn't notice that because they've never really lived outside of American society or culture for very long. I mentioned in my experience that I was quite glad to re-experience American culture when you aren't living in it.
This is such an obviously true statement, you wouldn't think I'd even need to defend it.
However, I did have to defend it because one classmate, with the support of a few others, explicitly claimed that American culture didn't exist, and wasn't a positive even if it did, because only other places had cultures that were unique. Everybody here lived in a similar way, and therefore it didn't have a culture, and my opinion wasn't educated.
Another student spoke up and agreed with me because she had lived abroad, and pointed out that... yes... American culture exists. She, too, valued our unique approach to personal liberty and individual rights.
She was also dismissed, and gawfed at. My critics were quickly turning into mean-girls.
I was going to give an elaborate explanation about how social groups of any kind had to have their own cultures and social morays. But before I could even finish my first sentence, a little clique of 3 of them literally started laughing and snickering classic mean-girls style.
After a very tense pause, I threw my hands up and said "Fuck it, I'm done". After realizing that very bad things would happen to my chances of graduation had I done or said any of the things that were rolling through my head.
The Midwits are informed by "official sources" that their opinions are correct and conform to the correct narrative. After that, they use their sense of smug self-entitlement to deride others and affirm themselves in their moral superiority. That's why I've always felt that it was important to confront Leftists directly on their moral high-ground. It's actually never as well defended as they think because they've never properly interrogated their own beliefs.
Can you elaborate on this point? Are you saying attack them on their morality, their sense of authority, or are you suggesting something else entirely?
So, it's an old military tactic that is very dangerous, but very useful for winning battles quickly against an enemy that is not competently prepared or trained; or if they are unfamiliar with longer and more drawn out fights. You make a full, frontal, spear-head assault on the enemy's strongest point, but you have to be very aggressive about it. As soon as you break the strongest point, hit every other point and overwhelm them, causing a route of their position.
What the Leftist typically does is prepare an assault against the right wing, which is typically making strong static defenses. Static defenses are nice in war, but they are never optimal. Given infinite time and resources, all static defenses will be breached. This is a fact.
What a Leftist will typically does is prepare for a siege by hitting many points, and keeping you on the defensive; or they try to hit you from many different angles until your cognitive overload gets the better of you, and you give you an insane run-around that makes them look pseudo-competent as if they know more (when they are just attacking different positions hoping something will stick.
Fundamentally, they are not prepared for an overly aggressive frontal assault on their strongest point, and are not prepared to hold a defensive posture for any length of time.
To answer your question: I'm saying attack them on the underlying emotional position they are hanging their hat on. If it is a sense of self-righteousness (and normally it is), then attack their entire moral framework and perspective from the ground up and unrepentantly unacceptable and abominable. Make them defend their own moral philosophy, and they normally aren't prepared for it. If it is a reliance on authority, then question their competence. Their reliance on authority is the result of a fundamental ignorance about the nuance of the issue, and your priority should be to expose that nuance.
It sounds harsh, but the truth is, an honest person who isn't engaging in rhetorical warfare is simply going to accept you elaborating your position, so you will very clearly and quickly have no need to launch an attack.
It looks like this:
What did I do? I didn't even engage in the topic. I didn't even counter-argue against their claim of what I said was anti-black. I attacked their moral and authoritative foundation from the very start. I'm not even giving them a counter-argument. I don't want that to be the argument. I want the argument to be about whether or not this person even has the right to speak at all. I've denied her moral authority to speak, her appeal to authority, and I've thrown her identity politics back in her own face. It's very contentious, and I've yet to see anyone respond to it without either retreating to the defensive, or desperately trying to counter-argue entirely different points to derail my counter-attack.
Now, a normal person is never this aggressive, and a probing attack would prove it quickly.
Normies don't actually want to get into ideological or political arguments because a) It can get really hostile if an SJW shows up, b) they are normally utterly unequipped to deal with it from a philosophical or ideological stand-point. Normies are like Civilians in war. Do not intentionally target them if you can avoid it. If you launch an attack and you realize you raided the wrong place, be very apologetic and replace the door you kicked in.
Well, and there in lies the problem. The places, states, and cities that care about their rights have already said they will not tolerate such measures. And when pushed they have pushed back. I have seen it in my own state, where Dodge City chased out their mayor and got her to resign because of an overwhelming backlash when she attempted to enforce a mask mandate.
But the places that will stay locked down don’t give a shit about their rights or that they are being violated, so they will mental gymnastics their way through their livelihood being destroyed over it.
Yup. That's also gonna be the only way. Best to add our subversion into that.
I'm gonna fedpost!
NO DON'T DO IT WE NEED THIS PLACE
Non-stop "deadly" global pandemic.
Non-stop fake elections.
Non-stop boot on your neck.
Deus Ex was right again.
I mean, they already established it thanks to that fucking Time article. They're gonna do it again in 2022 COVID or not.
In Ireland, one of our leading politicians essentially said this could go on for years. If it does, and there's no revolution, the west is officially dead.
The European countries seem more in danger than the US, even as bad as we can get, our own propensity for revolution and violence is what's saving us, to be frank.
Which is weird to say when a place as revolutionary as Ireland just kinda rolled over and accepted European colonization efforts.
Ah, so THIS was the plan Unca Joe had that Trump didn't.
I'm sorry, all I heard was
"UNCA SCWOOOOOGE!!!"
ITS JUST...
Meh. I've heard 2027 myself.