We have to strip the cathedral at every level. Protectionism is the promise of the authoritarians running it.
So, a good first step is already happening: undermine that protectionist claim.
However, it can't be enough to just undermine it, but to completely subvert and poison the concept. "Look what they will do to you". We must eradicate trust in the institution. It's not enough for them to be skeptical of it, we need to promote the tearing of it apart.
This causes unease in those who are not prepared to protect themselves. So the second step is to push the heroic narrative on each individual to be able to protect themselves. Leadership not only through example, but inspiration as well. We must present them with an affirmative narrative where they can accept and believe that they will be better off governing themselves, then having others govern for them. We must promote a strong sense of individualism and individual attainment. Instead of "Don't raise taxes", say "keep your money". Instead of "cut government spending", say "they can't spend for you." Really push the idea of: only you know best for you.
Now that you have a strong individual, you need a strong community. Each person must be the pillar of their community, over-lapping with one another. New individuals must be able to join a community of people that will offer affiliates, that are anti-parallel to the establishment system.
We must have radical divestment from the establishment system wherever possible. We must exist in anti-parallel to them. We must be pushing the opposite direction.
I can't stress enough that it is imperative to re-individuate people. The establishment supports de-individuation in order to maintain collectivism and propagate emotional abuse & conditioning. Individuation must be a core focus of what we do and the rhetoric we use in order to separate people from the establishment system and make them anti-fragile. They have been given learned helplessness, and we must teach them strength. A heroic narrative is a critical aspect to that.
As I've said before, I do not believe the Cathedral has the ability to stop low level anti-parallel institutional development. The anti-Left continues to have predominantly hard power, rather than soft. Coming from a former occupier of a country, soft power without hard power backing you up is a weak position that will get you killed once someone figures it out.
As time goes on, people will continue defy and engage in mild, but unapologetic civil disobedience or simple anti-establishment disruption. Each strike further demonstrates the weakness of the establishment to project it's power, while the anti-establishment forces learn how to press their advantages.
There is no question in my mind that violence will inevitably erupt considering the hard-power differences, and the need for violence as a force multiplier to be applied as the establishment flails around ever more ineffectively.
The reason they are scrambling to push rhetoric about counter-insurgency is because the anti-establishment's revolutionary rhetoric is going to slowly start turning into genuine insurgent actions, and there's very little they can do about it without conceding power. One of the primary lessons in Iraq about counter-insurgency was about giving up power and influence to local bodies that were capable of managing their own affairs, but were prepared to relent to your authority over one issue: terrorist violence.
This is why violence from the anti-establishment needs to be dissuaded. The establishment needs violence in order to help legitimize themselves as 'the only people that can protect you'. What everyone else needs to do is poison that protectionism.
The unfortunate part about WSB is that because it was hosted on a centralized platform it got taken over by a lot of far leftists - they started bringing in people like Mark Cuban etc for AMAs and then the original mods were kicked out.
Any attempt at re-individuation on authoritarian platforms like Reddit gets squashed easily.
Right, this why you need anti-parallel institutions like us.
Re-individuation is highest form of subversion in an authoritarian system. The authoritarian system intentionally de-individuates people to make them independent. But individuation will make the slaves more confident, competent, secretive, and productive. It starts out with the master being glad his slaves are taking responsibility, only to be stunned to find his slaves are hiding things from him, only to batter them down into submission. But the submission backfires because of the gained confidence in the individual slave. The slave no longer accepts the beating as a just criticism of himself, but as an unjust attack by someone who is less competent than them, which feeds their resentment of enslavement and pushes them towards separation.
Once they get purged, they need to come to our anti-parallel institutions.
Hmm, there's something here, something about a link between this individuation and atomization.
Atomization strips away social support, which has many effects, but I can see one big desirable effect being reliance on authority. I've been toying with the idea that it may be possible to teach an atomized individual how to become..well, ubermensch, basically.
Most of the principles behind strategic atomization seem to rely on the targets all breaking. But if they come out stronger instead of weaker, that'd be a sight.
I've been thinking of how a children's book aimed towards atomized children might be comical enough to get published (basically teaching basics of living like a beast surrounded by enemies, older ages get lessons on humanity).
Do you have any thoughts on the relevance of atomization towards your topic? This'll really bug me for a while, so I want some more data to work with.
Many people are authoritarian minded (because our society is), and they don't get the idea of emergent order. Austrian Economics is built on it, and in physics we see it naturally occur literally all the time. But many people think order can only be imposed on a system, rather than arise naturally.
Atomization is not a normal situation. It's a situation where an individual is permanently and continually stripped of affiliations and communities he might otherwise naturally form.
Individualism isn't the same as atomization. Individualism allows the individual to make those communities as he desires. There is no reason for him to be an element onto his own if he does not seek it. This is why communities develop. Forming social groups is such a basic-bitch concept of human interaction it would take perpetual social conditioning, institutional pressures, and technological persuasion from extremely powerful actors that profit off of atomitizing people 24/7 through constant maintenance to even have such a society function in such an atomitized way.
...
shit
Now, I will say that I'm a fairly atomitized individual. However, the reason for that is an extremely arrested development stemming from abuse. Part of the reason I'm intellectually focused the way I am is because all of my neurological development and cognitive skill went into trying to think my way into surviving problems. The reason I don't naturally socialize with people is because that is not skill I have sufficiently developed yet.
But that should tell you how abnormal the conditioning has to actually be to make people self-atomitizing. It has to be a form of perpetual psychological conditioning, and applied at an early enough age that you don't have earlier social interactions to fall back on.
Don't let your kids use cellphones or spend all their time on the internet.
I've been thinking of how a children's book aimed towards atomized children might be comical enough to get published (basically teaching basics of living like a beast surrounded by enemies, older ages get lessons on humanity).
This one's very hard, I know from personal experience.
Books are not really enough. You really kind of require psychological counseling. It's like asking, "what kind of children's book would your write for kids who've been sexually abused?" You can, but you should really talk to professionals about how child psychology copes with that level of abuse. Similarly, an atomitized child is probably on the edge of suicide for significant social isolation, learned helplessness, de-individuation, and lacking any clear social value.
The kids who are surviving well in an atomitized environment, have adapted to atomization by self-isolating as methodology of risk mitigation. This means that they are self-atomizing as a way to control potential external risks. This is a purely defensive cognitive behavior. This kid has to learn how to expose himself to risk, and then also have the confidence to withstand the fairly common failure that will come with many early attempts. For someone who has no social value, this is a terribly complex problem without either external assistance from professionals or descending into narcissism. They've never moderated their behavior before, so they don't know when to moderate their confidence nor their self-doubt. This means, emotionally, everything's going to hurt at first until they learn to take it. That's a very tough prospect to try and self-teach. This is why a professional acting as a support system is so vital.
Imagine a kid attempting to learn how to swim in a pond near his house, with no supervision or guidance. This isn't even a controlled environment. It's genuinely dangerous. This kid would have to have an extremely high level of determination to learn and an extreme pain threshold for near constant failure because he doesn't even have the basics down, and can't reference any. That's a ton of physical work, significant pain, even more discipline, and truly high levels of obstinance in a person who likely to quit because it's already familiar.
On the other hand, a child may go the entirely opposite direction. They may determine all of their value from external social responses. This kid isn't going to just be some "social butterfly". They're going to be too outgoing. They're going to either be a class clown always seeking positive attention, they may be attention-whoring, they may obsessed with social signalling, they may even become sexually deviant in order to garner positive attention as they turn into teens. This is actually, probably, as worse result. This person is going to have tons of ingrained self-destructive behaviors that exist because they have no ability to moderate their emotions, and no ability to maintain any self-confidence outside of social conditioning. These kids are going to drown their loneliness in really bad things.
These kids are going to need a completely different approach. They'll need to learn how to have self-confidence as well as stoicism to deal with rejection, failure, and manipulation.
Basically, you have to write a children's book that is addressed to the different children's behavioral pathologies that have emerged from the atomization. One is the """conservative""" pathology, and the other is the """"liberal"""" pathology for a better terms.
Luckily, we've conversed before so I'll replace them with "resistor" mental pathologies, and "inductor" mental pathologies.
Now, I will say that I'm a fairly atomitized individual. However, the reason for that is an extremely arrested development stemming from abuse. Part of the reason I'm intellectually focused the way I am is because all of my neurological development and cognitive skill went into trying to think my way into surviving problems. The reason I don't naturally socialize with people is because that is not skill I have sufficiently developed yet.
Ayy, I found another! I'll limit my divulgence of details because I'm trying to break the habit - sometimes it's hard to stop talking about personal shit. But it's on topic and I sort of have to play my hand for this conversation.
I went through some shit. Missing some chunks of memory, been spending the past several years learning how to feel anger because I rather successfully sealed up the little problems that I had control over. The parts I remember I still have nightmares about. I don't go outside much because I shut down if I encounter one specific personality type (only ever encountered two).
You learn some interesting things as a person when you're forced into extreme situations for long periods of time. You know this, surely. One of my takeaways - once I understood just how my life was different than others I spoke to - was that I don't want anyone to go through what I did. Not much you can do there, but for the sad fuck stuck in that world, I want to reach out with some advice that could've helped me. Like, just something simple like "Some people really do want you to be miserable and will do anything they can to achieve it" would have helped me avoid a lot of anguish if I'd learned it earlier.
I've spent many years seeing psychologists and using psychiatric drugs (stopped the pills, not worth it). Most of that effort was pure curiousity; I needed to understand how I worked. I often advise for others to give it a try, but a good friend you can open up to is WAY better in my experience.
They're going to be too outgoing. They're going to either be a class clown always seeking positive attention,
I hit an interesting roadbump around this matter. This was the path I started on, but then I got misdiagnosed with ADHD and forced onto an overdose of ritalin right around puberty. Boy, that was like flipping a switch, I became crippled by anxiety. "Your grades are better now, so you're staying on this medicine". The anxiety made avoiding some of the worse outcomes easier, at least.
So I think my motive is clear, but I'll spell it out because I can: I want to help other people overcome the hurdles that I could not (and the ones I could, I want others to overcome them with less struggle). I would've been a psych major like the other failures but I hate writing papers. But no, I'm probably not gonna seriously publish such a thing and put it in stores. If anything, I'd just post it online somewhere and probably never reach the intended audience.
Tell me just one thing, I'm really curious since I've never really identified a person with similarly poor youth. What's your friend making process like? Mine is an intense probing to feel out boundaries mixed with some bait to see if they're prone to behaviors that would put me off. I had to develop some awkward strategies to get sufficient data because people are surprisingly reluctant to open up to others. I'd be surprised if you had a similar issue with your process, but I'm betting it's an area you struggle with as well.
The problem remains that we have way too many normies and midwits.
The real question is how can one remove normies and midwits away from globalist/corporate brainwashing?
We have to strip the cathedral at every level. Protectionism is the promise of the authoritarians running it.
So, a good first step is already happening: undermine that protectionist claim.
However, it can't be enough to just undermine it, but to completely subvert and poison the concept. "Look what they will do to you". We must eradicate trust in the institution. It's not enough for them to be skeptical of it, we need to promote the tearing of it apart.
This causes unease in those who are not prepared to protect themselves. So the second step is to push the heroic narrative on each individual to be able to protect themselves. Leadership not only through example, but inspiration as well. We must present them with an affirmative narrative where they can accept and believe that they will be better off governing themselves, then having others govern for them. We must promote a strong sense of individualism and individual attainment. Instead of "Don't raise taxes", say "keep your money". Instead of "cut government spending", say "they can't spend for you." Really push the idea of: only you know best for you.
Now that you have a strong individual, you need a strong community. Each person must be the pillar of their community, over-lapping with one another. New individuals must be able to join a community of people that will offer affiliates, that are anti-parallel to the establishment system.
We must have radical divestment from the establishment system wherever possible. We must exist in anti-parallel to them. We must be pushing the opposite direction.
I can't stress enough that it is imperative to re-individuate people. The establishment supports de-individuation in order to maintain collectivism and propagate emotional abuse & conditioning. Individuation must be a core focus of what we do and the rhetoric we use in order to separate people from the establishment system and make them anti-fragile. They have been given learned helplessness, and we must teach them strength. A heroic narrative is a critical aspect to that.
See, like this
This sounds reasonable in theory.
I just don't see the Cathedral letting this happen on any meaningful scale.
I think what they will do this year will make 2020 look like a good year.
Before you say it, I admit that I am already pretty blackpilled by this point.
As I've said before, I do not believe the Cathedral has the ability to stop low level anti-parallel institutional development. The anti-Left continues to have predominantly hard power, rather than soft. Coming from a former occupier of a country, soft power without hard power backing you up is a weak position that will get you killed once someone figures it out.
As time goes on, people will continue defy and engage in mild, but unapologetic civil disobedience or simple anti-establishment disruption. Each strike further demonstrates the weakness of the establishment to project it's power, while the anti-establishment forces learn how to press their advantages.
There is no question in my mind that violence will inevitably erupt considering the hard-power differences, and the need for violence as a force multiplier to be applied as the establishment flails around ever more ineffectively.
The reason they are scrambling to push rhetoric about counter-insurgency is because the anti-establishment's revolutionary rhetoric is going to slowly start turning into genuine insurgent actions, and there's very little they can do about it without conceding power. One of the primary lessons in Iraq about counter-insurgency was about giving up power and influence to local bodies that were capable of managing their own affairs, but were prepared to relent to your authority over one issue: terrorist violence.
This is why violence from the anti-establishment needs to be dissuaded. The establishment needs violence in order to help legitimize themselves as 'the only people that can protect you'. What everyone else needs to do is poison that protectionism.
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The unfortunate part about WSB is that because it was hosted on a centralized platform it got taken over by a lot of far leftists - they started bringing in people like Mark Cuban etc for AMAs and then the original mods were kicked out. Any attempt at re-individuation on authoritarian platforms like Reddit gets squashed easily.
Right, this why you need anti-parallel institutions like us.
Re-individuation is highest form of subversion in an authoritarian system. The authoritarian system intentionally de-individuates people to make them independent. But individuation will make the slaves more confident, competent, secretive, and productive. It starts out with the master being glad his slaves are taking responsibility, only to be stunned to find his slaves are hiding things from him, only to batter them down into submission. But the submission backfires because of the gained confidence in the individual slave. The slave no longer accepts the beating as a just criticism of himself, but as an unjust attack by someone who is less competent than them, which feeds their resentment of enslavement and pushes them towards separation.
Once they get purged, they need to come to our anti-parallel institutions.
Hmm, there's something here, something about a link between this individuation and atomization.
Atomization strips away social support, which has many effects, but I can see one big desirable effect being reliance on authority. I've been toying with the idea that it may be possible to teach an atomized individual how to become..well, ubermensch, basically.
Most of the principles behind strategic atomization seem to rely on the targets all breaking. But if they come out stronger instead of weaker, that'd be a sight.
I've been thinking of how a children's book aimed towards atomized children might be comical enough to get published (basically teaching basics of living like a beast surrounded by enemies, older ages get lessons on humanity).
Do you have any thoughts on the relevance of atomization towards your topic? This'll really bug me for a while, so I want some more data to work with.
Many people are authoritarian minded (because our society is), and they don't get the idea of emergent order. Austrian Economics is built on it, and in physics we see it naturally occur literally all the time. But many people think order can only be imposed on a system, rather than arise naturally.
Atomization is not a normal situation. It's a situation where an individual is permanently and continually stripped of affiliations and communities he might otherwise naturally form.
Individualism isn't the same as atomization. Individualism allows the individual to make those communities as he desires. There is no reason for him to be an element onto his own if he does not seek it. This is why communities develop. Forming social groups is such a basic-bitch concept of human interaction it would take perpetual social conditioning, institutional pressures, and technological persuasion from extremely powerful actors that profit off of atomitizing people 24/7 through constant maintenance to even have such a society function in such an atomitized way.
...
shit
Now, I will say that I'm a fairly atomitized individual. However, the reason for that is an extremely arrested development stemming from abuse. Part of the reason I'm intellectually focused the way I am is because all of my neurological development and cognitive skill went into trying to think my way into surviving problems. The reason I don't naturally socialize with people is because that is not skill I have sufficiently developed yet.
But that should tell you how abnormal the conditioning has to actually be to make people self-atomitizing. It has to be a form of perpetual psychological conditioning, and applied at an early enough age that you don't have earlier social interactions to fall back on.
Don't let your kids use cellphones or spend all their time on the internet.
This one's very hard, I know from personal experience.
Books are not really enough. You really kind of require psychological counseling. It's like asking, "what kind of children's book would your write for kids who've been sexually abused?" You can, but you should really talk to professionals about how child psychology copes with that level of abuse. Similarly, an atomitized child is probably on the edge of suicide for significant social isolation, learned helplessness, de-individuation, and lacking any clear social value.
The kids who are surviving well in an atomitized environment, have adapted to atomization by self-isolating as methodology of risk mitigation. This means that they are self-atomizing as a way to control potential external risks. This is a purely defensive cognitive behavior. This kid has to learn how to expose himself to risk, and then also have the confidence to withstand the fairly common failure that will come with many early attempts. For someone who has no social value, this is a terribly complex problem without either external assistance from professionals or descending into narcissism. They've never moderated their behavior before, so they don't know when to moderate their confidence nor their self-doubt. This means, emotionally, everything's going to hurt at first until they learn to take it. That's a very tough prospect to try and self-teach. This is why a professional acting as a support system is so vital.
Imagine a kid attempting to learn how to swim in a pond near his house, with no supervision or guidance. This isn't even a controlled environment. It's genuinely dangerous. This kid would have to have an extremely high level of determination to learn and an extreme pain threshold for near constant failure because he doesn't even have the basics down, and can't reference any. That's a ton of physical work, significant pain, even more discipline, and truly high levels of obstinance in a person who likely to quit because it's already familiar.
On the other hand, a child may go the entirely opposite direction. They may determine all of their value from external social responses. This kid isn't going to just be some "social butterfly". They're going to be too outgoing. They're going to either be a class clown always seeking positive attention, they may be attention-whoring, they may obsessed with social signalling, they may even become sexually deviant in order to garner positive attention as they turn into teens. This is actually, probably, as worse result. This person is going to have tons of ingrained self-destructive behaviors that exist because they have no ability to moderate their emotions, and no ability to maintain any self-confidence outside of social conditioning. These kids are going to drown their loneliness in really bad things.
These kids are going to need a completely different approach. They'll need to learn how to have self-confidence as well as stoicism to deal with rejection, failure, and manipulation.
Basically, you have to write a children's book that is addressed to the different children's behavioral pathologies that have emerged from the atomization. One is the """conservative""" pathology, and the other is the """"liberal"""" pathology for a better terms.
Luckily, we've conversed before so I'll replace them with "resistor" mental pathologies, and "inductor" mental pathologies.
Ayy, I found another! I'll limit my divulgence of details because I'm trying to break the habit - sometimes it's hard to stop talking about personal shit. But it's on topic and I sort of have to play my hand for this conversation.
I went through some shit. Missing some chunks of memory, been spending the past several years learning how to feel anger because I rather successfully sealed up the little problems that I had control over. The parts I remember I still have nightmares about. I don't go outside much because I shut down if I encounter one specific personality type (only ever encountered two).
You learn some interesting things as a person when you're forced into extreme situations for long periods of time. You know this, surely. One of my takeaways - once I understood just how my life was different than others I spoke to - was that I don't want anyone to go through what I did. Not much you can do there, but for the sad fuck stuck in that world, I want to reach out with some advice that could've helped me. Like, just something simple like "Some people really do want you to be miserable and will do anything they can to achieve it" would have helped me avoid a lot of anguish if I'd learned it earlier.
I've spent many years seeing psychologists and using psychiatric drugs (stopped the pills, not worth it). Most of that effort was pure curiousity; I needed to understand how I worked. I often advise for others to give it a try, but a good friend you can open up to is WAY better in my experience.
I hit an interesting roadbump around this matter. This was the path I started on, but then I got misdiagnosed with ADHD and forced onto an overdose of ritalin right around puberty. Boy, that was like flipping a switch, I became crippled by anxiety. "Your grades are better now, so you're staying on this medicine". The anxiety made avoiding some of the worse outcomes easier, at least.
So I think my motive is clear, but I'll spell it out because I can: I want to help other people overcome the hurdles that I could not (and the ones I could, I want others to overcome them with less struggle). I would've been a psych major like the other failures but I hate writing papers. But no, I'm probably not gonna seriously publish such a thing and put it in stores. If anything, I'd just post it online somewhere and probably never reach the intended audience.
Tell me just one thing, I'm really curious since I've never really identified a person with similarly poor youth. What's your friend making process like? Mine is an intense probing to feel out boundaries mixed with some bait to see if they're prone to behaviors that would put me off. I had to develop some awkward strategies to get sufficient data because people are surprisingly reluctant to open up to others. I'd be surprised if you had a similar issue with your process, but I'm betting it's an area you struggle with as well.