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What are KIA approved webhosters?
posted 5 years ago by Throwawayw00tw00t 5 years ago by Throwawayw00tw00t +36 / -0

If I ever get the urge to host a website I don't want to support bad people.

Who out there is a good guy? I see Epik is but their low tier is 10 bucks a month and doesn't list bandwidth.

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– nordic 20 points 5 years ago +20 / -0

actual answer? if you're in the cloud and doing anything controversial you're probably going to yet yeeted. there are some boutique hosters like joshua moon's "1776 hosting" (joshua is a bad person, but not for political reasons) designed specifically to host controversial shit but they tend to be more expensive and limited.

if you're at all worried, buy a cheap used server from buisness surplus and host on your own metal. unless you get a shitload of traffic its unlikely your home connection will get saturated. remember to proxy to hide your ip tho.

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– TentElephant 14 points 5 years ago +14 / -0

What did Josh Moon do? I'm a low information fan.

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– xleb2 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

Mr Kiwi Farms who has been persecuted across the globe for his websites.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq 12 points 5 years ago +12 / -0

Hell a raspberry pi (or maybe a couple with a load balancer in front) would be sufficient for most websites. Especially if the content doesn't change that often so the rendered pages can be cached.

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– Throwawayw00tw00t [S] 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

Yeah, but doesn't that require punching a hole into your network config?

And then I guess I could use Dyn DNS, but when the IP changes would emails bounce back if I ran an SMTP on there?

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– lgbtqwtfbbq 11 points 5 years ago +11 / -0

Yes, with the risks associated with doing so.

You might have issues in general running an SMTP server on a residential connection, as a lot of them block port 25. If running your own mailserver is a requirement for what you want to do you may not be able to do that at home.

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– Throwawayw00tw00t [S] 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

Yeah, I guess if I set up the router to give the pi a static IP and then just port forwarded https and email ports to that IP I would be fine though right?

I'm not planning on hosting anything spicy and resulting in dos but more hackers mucketing about on home network.

I do want to use email with the domain, that is part of the reason I was thinking to avoid home hosting, because I don't want bounce back if network craps out.

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– cccpneveragain 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

If you're serious about hosting your e-mail, check out this guide. https://workaround.org/ispmail Someone on here (Lurker404 IIRC) shared it with me.

I had run mail and web servers before many years ago, and it helped me a ton. There's a lot of extra things to worry about like firewall, security, DKIM, etc. I've been set up for a couple months now on a $5/mo cloud VM. Incoming mail works flawlessly, every now and then I get a bounce on outgoing mail but it's been fixable. The only think I didn't set up was webmail. I might eventually but it's just me using the server and I don't really need it. It goes over a lot of security concerns too, that you should take into account. For example, the fail2ban tool that blocks IPs that try to brute force my SSH password is up to like 6000 IPs blocked. I have to have SSH for remote access and even moved it to a different port. It doesn't matter.

I would not run it on a home server without a static IP though. It's not for the feint of heart but if you like playing with these things it was fun and I'm not on big tech anymore. I've since set up WebDAV for cloud syncing my notes app, and am working on a website that will probably be crap (but fun for me). I'm also going to run a matrix server even though I have no current need to use matrix, because I can! I've got a few other things I want to try too. Right now my $5/mo VM isn't even in the ballpark of being overloaded and I use like 5GB of my 1TB of download.

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– Throwawayw00tw00t [S] 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

brute force my SSH password

I know you can login to ssh using a security certificate, heard that was more secure than a password

I may have to just look for a $5/month vm though

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– cccpneveragain 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Yeah, I might should look into that. I know there's a way to use a key file. It might stop them trying to login. Although Fail2Ban is the tool I use and it monitors for failed logins and puts an IP bans in the firewall table after 3 tries or whatever I set it to. At which point they just get totally dropped.

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– YouAreAPirate 14 points 5 years ago +14 / -0

I think for alt-tech, we should be looking to go in the direction of becoming similar to the Pirate Bay. Running Virtual Machines through a range of providers and all external traffic goes through a load balancer before reaching the servers. Some very interesting tech used to keep that site running, but any articles I'm seeing on the subject are severely dated, so who knows if they've changed how they operate in the interim.

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– cccpneveragain 11 points 5 years ago +11 / -0

If I understand correctly, that's how this site (or the more notable target thedonald.win) stays up. They load balance through a bunch of different VM hosts that use a shared database backend.

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– bg4u 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

That's how any sufficiently large site stays up. Not because they are being taken down, but because they need to be able to seamlessly add capacity and deal with outages/maintenance.

The real question is what is TD going to do when (((Cloudflare))) inevitably deplatforms them (i.e. exposes them to ddos attacks).

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– cccpneveragain 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

Yeah I figured that was it with a large site, but I bet a ton of them (Parler) settle on AWS load balancing across zones. They apparently went too deep into the AWS world because they seem to be totally dead.

I hope they have a plan for Cloudflare dropping them, particularly since they've been dropped by two hosts so far. There are other DDOS protections, just have to find one that will take their money I suppose.

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– acp_k2win 12 points 5 years ago +12 / -0

Havent heard anything bad about siteground yet

Headquatered in Bulgaria so maybe they are less vulnerable to commie influence

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– TentElephant 12 points 5 years ago +12 / -0

The right is going to unironically end up becoming russian bots. да здравствует Путин

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– cccpneveragain 9 points 5 years ago +9 / -0

If you are trying to start shit, I'd do a ton of research and look offshore. I don't know a ton about those but places like the Netherlands have pretty tough laws and a give no shits attitude about caving to political pressure. Iceland too. Russia if you aren't going to be anti-Putin.

Otherwise if we're talking personal website hosting, just avoid Amazon, Google, Microsoft. There's tons of options DigitalOcean, Linode, DreamHost, etc. I've heard DreamHost has actually taken up court cases to protect their users from censorship and hosts some sites like the Nazi party. I've not researched the politics on any of these, but I have a little cloud VM (on one of these) that's a toy box for my random BS and it's $5 a month.

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– JustHereForTheSalmon 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

BuyVM was advertising on bitchute for a while. They'll let you host Tor nodes so IMO that counts for some dedication to speech.

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