Oh great, then we'll get stuck with Texas and Idaho, just as both states tip blue, then we'll have to secede from them too. Or does Idaho secede from Boise then, and Texas from Austin? Why not just an infinite regress of secessions?
It would require having the duly elected government of a state declaring the federal government illegitimate and directing the agents and militia of that state to do the following:
Detain and eject federal officers in its territory.
Secure the state's territorial border and begin controlling who can enter.
Seize federal property within its jurisdiction.
After this initial burst of activity, things kinda go into a holding pattern as the rest of the country responds. It's a foregone conclusion that the first state to secede will see both flight out and flight in as people pick which side of the line they want to be on.
The question is, what does DC do?
This time, I do not think a military resolution will occur.
You see, in a civil conflict when the military is directed to respond, it is on the individual members of it to decide where their loyalties are.
I suspect very strongly that the military, being 2/3rds republican and overwhelmingly pro-MAGA, will quit en-masse and be among those who move.
There will not be enough people left in the US with the experience and will to fight for DC to make a military response, so instead we'll get a standoff and de facto secession which is eventually made de jure.
People think that the Civil War just happened. That just instantly one day we were one country and the next day we were two countries shooting each other. The forget the months that passed between secession and the war. A lot happened. Not enough people pay attention to all the things that did happen.
Aye. It was always going to come to secession.
Just glad y'all are starting to realize it.
Oh great, then we'll get stuck with Texas and Idaho, just as both states tip blue, then we'll have to secede from them too. Or does Idaho secede from Boise then, and Texas from Austin? Why not just an infinite regress of secessions?
It's almost as if large nations don't work, and tiny decentralised nations with very local forms of government are by far the best option.
But but diversity is our strength
That's what America is supposed to be. The federal government was never supposed to have this much power, but power once gained is rarely given up.
Yep, I know. All of this could have been avoided if it remained as it used to be. Am I a conservative now? Lol.
How does that work? It's clear the Capitol lacks the political will to do it.
Well, it would look like this:
It would require having the duly elected government of a state declaring the federal government illegitimate and directing the agents and militia of that state to do the following:
After this initial burst of activity, things kinda go into a holding pattern as the rest of the country responds. It's a foregone conclusion that the first state to secede will see both flight out and flight in as people pick which side of the line they want to be on.
The question is, what does DC do?
This time, I do not think a military resolution will occur.
You see, in a civil conflict when the military is directed to respond, it is on the individual members of it to decide where their loyalties are.
I suspect very strongly that the military, being 2/3rds republican and overwhelmingly pro-MAGA, will quit en-masse and be among those who move.
There will not be enough people left in the US with the experience and will to fight for DC to make a military response, so instead we'll get a standoff and de facto secession which is eventually made de jure.
Is there any state likely to actually do this? Even the most red states tend to have blue capitals and centers of power.
Well that's the million dollar question there isn't it.
I don't have an answer for ya.
Didn't Texas already consider the secession issue when SCOTUS rejected their suit?
People think that the Civil War just happened. That just instantly one day we were one country and the next day we were two countries shooting each other. The forget the months that passed between secession and the war. A lot happened. Not enough people pay attention to all the things that did happen.
34 states required to call it?
Impossible under current circumstances.
Most count I've come up with is about 28 likely to support it. Not sure where the other 6 would come from.