It would require having the duly elected government of a state declaring the federal government illegitimate and directing the agents and militia of that state to do the following:
Detain and eject federal officers in its territory.
Secure the state's territorial border and begin controlling who can enter.
Seize federal property within its jurisdiction.
After this initial burst of activity, things kinda go into a holding pattern as the rest of the country responds. It's a foregone conclusion that the first state to secede will see both flight out and flight in as people pick which side of the line they want to be on.
The question is, what does DC do?
This time, I do not think a military resolution will occur.
You see, in a civil conflict when the military is directed to respond, it is on the individual members of it to decide where their loyalties are.
I suspect very strongly that the military, being 2/3rds republican and overwhelmingly pro-MAGA, will quit en-masse and be among those who move.
There will not be enough people left in the US with the experience and will to fight for DC to make a military response, so instead we'll get a standoff and de facto secession which is eventually made de jure.
People think that the Civil War just happened. That just instantly one day we were one country and the next day we were two countries shooting each other. The forget the months that passed between secession and the war. A lot happened. Not enough people pay attention to all the things that did happen.
Civil War is probably the closer comparison in this case, but this slower than expected timelines fits with the American Revolution as well.
I see people that think the founding fathers would have already filled the ground with the bodies of traitors by now. The thing is there were years of unrest, little mini rebellions, and attempts at peaceful diplomacy before the full on war and Declaration of Independence happened. I'd probably say the Stamp Act Congress (1765) was the first formal stab at putting together a resistance, and that was a full decade before the war really took off. In today's world I'd argue we aren't even to that point yet.
So what does the road to that point look like from here?
I'm seeing an awful lot of calls for police violence from Leftbook. It seems people won't be happy until anyone who ever supported Trump is rounded up and executed.
Well, it would look like this:
It would require having the duly elected government of a state declaring the federal government illegitimate and directing the agents and militia of that state to do the following:
After this initial burst of activity, things kinda go into a holding pattern as the rest of the country responds. It's a foregone conclusion that the first state to secede will see both flight out and flight in as people pick which side of the line they want to be on.
The question is, what does DC do?
This time, I do not think a military resolution will occur.
You see, in a civil conflict when the military is directed to respond, it is on the individual members of it to decide where their loyalties are.
I suspect very strongly that the military, being 2/3rds republican and overwhelmingly pro-MAGA, will quit en-masse and be among those who move.
There will not be enough people left in the US with the experience and will to fight for DC to make a military response, so instead we'll get a standoff and de facto secession which is eventually made de jure.
Is there any state likely to actually do this? Even the most red states tend to have blue capitals and centers of power.
Well that's the million dollar question there isn't it.
I don't have an answer for ya.
Didn't Texas already consider the secession issue when SCOTUS rejected their suit?
Not hard enough.
Probably, but we shall see.
People think that the Civil War just happened. That just instantly one day we were one country and the next day we were two countries shooting each other. The forget the months that passed between secession and the war. A lot happened. Not enough people pay attention to all the things that did happen.
Civil War is probably the closer comparison in this case, but this slower than expected timelines fits with the American Revolution as well.
I see people that think the founding fathers would have already filled the ground with the bodies of traitors by now. The thing is there were years of unrest, little mini rebellions, and attempts at peaceful diplomacy before the full on war and Declaration of Independence happened. I'd probably say the Stamp Act Congress (1765) was the first formal stab at putting together a resistance, and that was a full decade before the war really took off. In today's world I'd argue we aren't even to that point yet.
So what does the road to that point look like from here?
I'm seeing an awful lot of calls for police violence from Leftbook. It seems people won't be happy until anyone who ever supported Trump is rounded up and executed.