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Its more than that, too. Its people flat-out refusing to accept reality and just blindly believing whatever their television tells them.
Fact: If you do not have a severe, pre-existing medical condition primarily caused by lifestyle (diabetes, high blood pressure, heart disease, obesity) your risk of dying is quite small. Similarly, unless you are >75 or so, you again have a negligible risk of dying. And, based on hospital admissions data, if you aren't vitamin d deficient you're almost certainly fine - and that is something that's easy for anyone to fix.
Fact: Despite the "We Listen to SCIENCE!" crowd not shutting up about what St Fauci says, this has been politicized to an absurd degree. Take HCQ - it was being used seemingly effectively to treat this, it had been used to treat regular SARS, people had been taking it for years with no issues, and then Trump mentions it, the media goes on a smear campaign and some governors ban prescribing it - when is the last time you ever heard of a governor telling a doctor what legal drug they can or can't prescribe? Even the name of this. I don't give a **** if the "official" name is covid-19. When have you ever heard of a virus being called the scientific name in common culture? Cause in 3 decades, I've never heard it once. Until Trump called it the Chinese Coronavirus or Wuhan Coronavirus or something, and then the media flipped their lid and now everyone just says "Well, that's the official name!"
Fact: The cure is provably worse than the disease. 250k (or whatever it is today) deaths in the US is bad, yes, but its a drop in the bucket. The US has a population north of 330 million, so we're not even close to 1/10th of 1% of the population. Meanwhile, poverty is skyrocketing, I read one that 1/3 young adults are becoming suicidal, drug and alcohol abuse is up, domestic violence is up, people are suffering complications from previously treatable conditions because hospitals are being shuttered, the economy is in freefall, but I guess I just want Grandma to die.
Fact: There is no hard evidence that the lockdowns even work. Worldwide trends are similar in terms of spiking infections (or, at least they were a week or so ago, haven't checked in the last few days). And, in the US, a tight cluster of NE states all of which followed similar harsh lockdown procedures remain the most deadly part of the country for the virus.
Opinion: Past evidence suggests that their vaccine hopes may well kill a lot more people. Remember SARS back in the early 2000s? Well, attempts to make a vaccine for that failed horribly, and in fact vaccine candidates for that made life worse for animals who got infected down the line. Yes, the vaccine candidates for SARS-CoV led to the animals experiencing the cytokine storm phenomenon that's killing people who get SARS-CoV-2. So, while they obviously aren't identical diseases or vaccines, I don't hold out a lot of hope for the SARS-CoV-2 vaccine to have better long-term safety than the SARS-CoV-1 vaccines did. And, yet, we're not going to get any long-term trials on this one until its been injected in tons of people already. (Plus, I have heard - though haven't independently verified - that the vaccine trials are only being conducted on otherwise healthy people who are already highly resistant to the virus, not the people with pre-existing conditions who are at risk.)
I have it right now. In my experience, it's a really wimpy disease. It's not even the worst illness I've had this year. I'm on the 4th day and only reason I haven't said it's over is I'm being too cautious. I haven't felt really bad since Monday evening, and even then really bad means I had a fever and not much of any other symptoms. If this were a few years in the past, today is the day I'd declare I'm fine and go back to the office. I've taken almost nothing to help, only some vitamin stuff I use when I get sick--that's mostly zinc and vitamin C and a rare small dose of Tylenol. I do give my doctor credit for wanting to test my vitamin D at my annual physical over a year ago and for some reason I was really low. This year it was up to normal after supplements though.
I really can't believe how much of my life I gave up to avoid this. I get something like this about once or twice a year on average. I call it a cold, rest a few days, and move on. The only thing I can get out of it is that it's crazy easy to spread as the person we were around gave it to everyone. I was around them about 2 days, others just several hours. Now I know some who are much worse off with pre-conditions than I am. So, by the end of the week I'll know how it affects them. At this point to them it's been worse than me but not all that awful either. Bearing in mind that these people usually drag colds out way longer than I do normally anyway.
Oh, and the person I caught it from? Wears a mask almost everywhere they go.
Mind giving us that update at the end of the week? Curious to hear real world data points.
Yeah I'll try to remember particularly how I hear how all the others panned out sounds like there were at least a few of us. If I forget I'm always on here making snide remarks about something so just remind me.
No worries, the UK has stepped in to be the sacrificial lamb. 100% guarantee that all the deaths from the vaccine will be listed as covid deaths and the victims will be shamed as anti-vaxxers to save face.
Don't worry, they're giving it to the BAME community first.
At this point I just hope my government (Germany) fucks shit up with restrictions as badly as possible. With a bit of luck we get a "Great Reset" but in the other direction, i.e. they run out of money and the whole left-wing money burning machine from Germany to the EU comes crashing down.
A man can dream.
It'll be tough for you guys (Europe) for a bit if/when the EU falls apart, but you'll all be better off after. I wish you Germans luck too, but you guys need to get rid of Stasi Merkel before anything can really happen.
How do we fight against this? I want to prevent all of this bullshit from continuing. We have to go back.
You'd have to restructure the whole west educationally speaking. People need to be thought how to think critically, to only believe things that have hard evidence, to be able to deduce that something is presented in a biased way. I honestly think a bias test should be a bare minimum for voting, I've been meaning to try and make one, but I'm not sure how you'd go about it. If people become good at noticing biased information, democracy would actually become pure, we'd vote based on facts, strongest arguments, and not based on the distorted "reality" that the elite present to us. The hegemony needs to be broken before any of this could become a reality sadly.
As u/grinnin_barrett points out bias testing requires someone or something making the test and making judgement calls on what is an acceptable or unacceptable level of bias.
At minimum voters need to be invested in the country so my personal direction is more along the lines of the 'service guarantees citizenship' model. I'm not so naive to think that this system doesn't have problems, but I do think that only citizens should be able to vote, and that there needs to be some kind of process of national service (whatever that looks like) to allow people to invest in the country and be rewarded for it.
The week of November 9th I was exposed to an asymptomatic co-worker who developed full symptoms the next day and tested positive. We were in the same room, in close proximity (i.e. well within 6 feet of each other) for about 6 hours.
His end result? Felt like crap for about a week, flu-like symptoms, doctor gave him a Z-Pak and inhaler, told him to quarantine for two weeks. He's back on the job now, feels as good as ever.
My end result? Had to go get tested, forced to work from home for three days until the results came back. Had to last-minute reschedule several appointments for things I had planned to get done before the Thanksgiving holiday. I came up clean, no symptoms whatsoever in the interim.
Take from that what you will, but anyone who says this disease is one of the most infectious things in existence really needs to have their head examined.
That's because people who are asymptomatic don't have a high enough viral load in their throats to infect others. Even if they coughed right in your face it's extremely unlikely you'd get it from them.
Having asymptomatic people wear marks is a complete joke.
Most likely the majority were false positives. It's virtually impossible to catch it from an asymptomatic person because they don't have a high enough viral load in their throats to infect others.
Didn't Elon Musk test both of his nostrils and one tested positive and the other negative?
Yep lol