/r/games downvotes the holodomor
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The amount of open communists these days is terrifying. For an ideology that killed more people than any other in human history.
Only because they weren't stupid enough to lose WW2. If the Nazis had won, they would have killed way more.
I seem to recall that the Soviet Union was busy genociding demographics before the Nazis made it cool - the holodomor was in 1932, some time before boomer Hitler got around to offing job lots of his own population.
And that's just one big bang event, not even taking into account the continual grinding misery and death communism leaves in it's wake.
How could Hitler be a "Boomer" when he was born in 1889? Does anyone even know what a "Baby Boomer" actually IS any more?
If anything, he was of the "Lost Generation", the first one to be named.
It was purely in comparison to Stalin, the hipster of the piece, who was genociding demographics before it was cool.
Actually, Hitler was a hipster, too. Considered himself too good to take a dishwashing job to avoid abject poverty, and he wouldn't even consider applying to a commercial arts school when the finest fine arts school in Europe turned him down. Hipsters never lower their sights. The only difference between him and a modern hipster would be his willingness to join the army of the country he admired.
Sorry for missing the sarcasm, btw, but I've seen the term "Boomer" thrown around meaninglessly so much, they're starting to twist it to just mean anyone older than 30 who didn't get indoctrinated by university "education".
No worries dude, there is a whole law named after it, after all.
One of the worst things about $CurrentYear is it makes the Poe thing true for so many more people than normal.
Eh, it's only text, could be they missed the sarcasm, for all that I thought I laid it on with a trowel.
also 10 million deaths is a lot more than x00000
That's true, but if the USSR lost, the Nazis would have killed more.
Just like someone said in the reddit thread, this is vapid whataboutism.
What is it about the atrocities of the USSR that brings out this knee-jerk response? Is it really so hard to just fucking admit that socialism has resulted in horrific totalitarian regimes? This is why the advocates of socialism always come off as untrustworthy or idiots; They can't even admit the mistakes of past attempts to come up with an explanation as to how they plan to prevent that from happening again.
At least the dumb-asses that think we should give fascism another go have a large proportion of members that admit to the German holocaust and are honest about wanting to do it again.
Fascism is just honest socialism: https://www.bitchute.com/video/9mJPw-ICYp8/
No no no no, you don't understand.
Let's make it clear:
NAZIS BAD
If you have anything to add to that, you are in fact saying that Nazis are not bad, and that makes you a Nazi!
That's the way postmodern debates go, isn't it?
Maybe? We're supposing about two genocidal regimes, I'm not sure I'd be able to predict which one is going to off more people.
This is all speculation. Why is it important unless this is an attempt to cover for communism...
Everyone talks about communism but ignores fascism
What, in a discussion about the holodomor? The cheek of it! How dare they, how very dare they?
Why, the other day I saw a discussion on the flaws of fascist ideology that didn't once mention the proceedings of the 20th Congress of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union!
Truly amazing...
Where? All I see everywhere is communist promotion.
He's lying. There are open communists everywhere in media and academia, and they are either ignored or supported. Meanwhile, fascism is so universally condemned that the very accusation is enough to destroy people who aren't even fascists. This dude is deliberately inverting our observable reality because that's what commies do.
Fascism has a relatively small death toll globally and historically when compared to the destruction wrought (and still occurring) at the hands of communist revolutionary ideology.
Because they lost WW2! If they had won, they would have killed way more.
I'm not lying about what the commies have done, they murdered millions
The Nazis would have killed anyone who isn't white... Maybe the Japanese would be excluded since they were allies
I think this one is fully indoctrinated. Arguing with it is a waste of time, it will just continue to recite "Nazis are bad" ad nauseam.
Gonna cry?
It's more interesting that you think anyone here disagrees with you on the "Nazis are bad" topic.
We don't (not wishing to appoint myself representative of the group or anything, but just look around and take a straw poll...), by the way, but I think it's fairly obvious that we have noticed the fairly transparent attempt to talk about anything except the many and varied faults of communism.
No, I'm going to laugh at you.
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This is categorically and patently false. Actually read what Nazis had to say about what they considered the other races to be and you'll find global "racial cleansing" absent from their to-do list.
Other than gas chambers, what policy did Hitler enact that FDR didn't?
No idea lol. The point is that Hitler would have killed millions of people if he had won
Only millions? Commies have killed over a hundred million already.
I'm not disagreeing, I'm just saying that the Nazis would have killed anyone who isn't white... Maybe the Japanese would be excluded since they were allies
Hitler had allies everywhere the same way everyone else did. Whether he would turn in them later is again..speculation. And all sides were busy committing war crimes.
They even signed a non-aggression pact that fucked Poland particularly hard. As I'm sure you know, the Soviets and the Nazis didn't stay friendly for very long.
Why in the world would they have ever done that? They didn't systematically kill non-whites in Germany. There was no mass killings of blacks, Indians, and Arabs. Many served within the ranks of the German military and SS. This caricature of Nazi Germany of the cartoonish villian is laughable and ahistoric.
If they won WW2, they would have eradicated them. They served as useful idiots to them, but would they have any sue of them if they defeated the USSR and Americans?
Hitler had allies from everywhere, including Muslim allies in the Middle East. You don't know very much do you?
I particularly like the way that it's often used to argue that communism, being unable to compete with functional systems of government, in fact requires global communism so that, all peoples being genuinely oppressed under this horrific system of governance, communism can't be left in the dust by actually productive societies.
They are technically correct; communism cannot succeed anywhere unless it is enforced everywhere. If even one free nation exists, it will serve as a beacon to undermine and eventually destroy any communist regime.
Even if you somehow achieved end-stage communism where there are no hierarchies, no property, etc. all that would be required to topple the system would be a few people willing to shed some blood and take over.
Time for total war
Update: Got censored by /r/games mods (but of course the post above claiming that communism only fails because of outside forces was left alone).
Original censored post said: "Communism = Famine and deaths of millions. The holodomor was not caused by outside forces." Downvoted to -52 before being censored by /games mods.
Part of communism's narrative is that it's only ever caused by "outside forces" as this provides their justification for imposing communism across the world, whether you want it or not - they're not invading, see, they're just protecting their own worker's paradise...