Another forum I'm on is currently STILL flipping out because Amazon still sells that "Hebrews to Negroes" video that Kyrie Irving tweeted out.
They are not the worst when it comes to censorship.
The Northern Europeans were the whitest of them all, and some do not even consider Greeks to be white. So that is why I cited them as the example. It's an ad hoc argument to blame 'geography and climate' when it's whites but discount them when it's blacks. Of course, the climate also differs for blacks, which is why they're black!
100% agree. Both northern Europe and sub-Saharan Africa were largely isolated. Both dealt with difficult weather and climate.
Why are Africans underdeveloped? Part of the reason is isolation, which also applies to Melanesians. That it may also be partly genetic is something that I do believe, but I don't like that people pretend to know causes for sure (rather than likelihood) and how they make sweeping assertions like a supposed IQ cutoff for a civilization.
Agree.
Yes, that is not even called into question by serious people on the left. The dispute is about what the causes of these are.
I don't think this is right. I think many on the left would dispute any differences of any kind between ethnicities or races. Hell these are the people who refuse to acknowledge any difference between men and women.
Writing was not invented that often. And of course, the Arabs and the Jews did not invent their own alphabet, they took it from the (Semitic) Phoenicians. Same for the Greeks, Etruscans and Romans. Did the Europeans invent any writing system? Linear A maybe? I'm not sure if that was borrowed from someplace else, but ours was.
The Egyptians invented writing, so did some Semitic peoples (Arabians and Phoenicians, deriving from Egyptian), the Sumerians invented writing, Greeks Linear A, etc., and from there those roots expanded far and wide. Greek is a pretty big upgrade and evolution over Phoenician. Later, Viking runes seem to be an original invention. Likewise the alphabet evolution from Greek -> Etruscan -> Latin involves some very large shifts and evolutions.
Other than Ethiopian, I'm not sure any African peoples adopted or adapted any scripts until very recently? Not my area of expertise, but Ethiopian is interesting. Semitic language, semitic alphabet, and an almost exact copy of the Arabian script. It's pretty much a direct borrowing. Phoenician -> Greek is a much bigger shift.
Neither here nor there, but interesting.
Not previously involved in this thread, but I think some reasonable answers:
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Ancient Egypt was generally not a sub-Saharan black nation. Some of the dynasties had more African influence, but genetically far more Middle Eastern, Mediterranean (Greek), Semitic, North Africa, etc. Genetic influence seems to indicate a steady gene flow from Sub-Saharan Africa into Egypt over the last millenium, meaning Egypt today is more "African" than it probably ever has been before.
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Your second question, I'll combine with an unasked question--why were black African peoples (including Melanesians/Australians) historically and globally the least developed peoples, no development of written language, etc? Why were white NORTHERN Europeans (since Greek/Rome/etc were very advanced) relatively undeveloped in 400BC? Geography and climate plays a very big role in both.
I'm not one to make that big a deal out of IQ differences, though I think there probably are statistically significant population-wide IQ differences when you compare certain groups. E.g. Ashkenazi Jews / Northern Europeans / East Asian Chinese / Sub-Saharan African / Australian Aborigine. IMHO, the differences are relatively minor, yet nonetheless present. I don't see any other way to explain how Jews are so incredibly over-represented as Nobel physicists or why no sub-Saharan people ever developed writing [Ethiopian ge'ez script was borrowed from Arabia].
Are Greeks included in shitskins? Or Chinese?
I didn't say they are fully up to Western standards. I said they have a very impressive history museum (collection size, building size, general facilities, and including preservation capabilities).
The article you link even quotes the conservation experts as the museum saying the person who broke and (then incorrectly repaired) the mask fucked up.
Egypt has a very impressive history museum, and they've done a far better job than many of their neighbors.
How would you like it if Chinese archaeologists came to America, excavated sites all over, found origina copies of the constitution, bricks from Washington's house, etc., and kept them in a Chinese museum?
It sucks for western civilization and it sucks for museum accessibility, but fair is fair. I think most of the relics the Western powers took should be returned.
Greece wants a shitload of stuff back too, so it's not just the non-west.
Sorry but "the show ruined the perfect books" is a fanboy cope.
Not sure who would say that. Certainly not me. I posted elsewhere in this thread that I do, or did, legitimately really like the first 3 books. Books 4 and 5 I've only read once. I'm not sure I'll ever finish the series.
My point was not that the books were perfect, but that the accusations of GRRM being all about porn and murderporn etc come more from the TV show than the books.
As for whether he knows where things are ending up? I doubt it. Especially the popular reaction to whatever happened in the TV series. I stopped watching that after season 3, so I'm in the dark.
Is anybody here a fan of Fuentes? I've read parts of his thread on Kiwi Farms and I don't get who the groypers are, or why he is popular.
A seemingly closeted religious incel who talks about catboys? What?
Can someone explain?
Something interesting. So, starting pretty early on in the Ottoman Empire (~500 years ago or so), it became the common practice that black eunuchs were in charge of the Sultan's harem. There were other eunuchs, and many, many slaves from Europe, the Middle East, India, etc., but the eunuchs in charge of the harem were only black Africans.
The Ottomans purchased black eunuchs from Coptic Christians who lived in Upper Egypt (that's southern Egypt). The Ottoman court kept buying eunuchs until the end of the sultanate, right around World War I.
Yep. And I won't be buying Dwarf Fortress on Steam or elsewhere. Their choose to do what they want to do with their money, my choice to not buy.
More like two camps. The fat, mannish "bulldyke" lesbians (majority), and then the skinny scrawny boi lesbians. Actually I think most of those have become trans manlets today.
It's pretty interesting that there really are staggeringly few physically "normal" lesbians.
Saying that I, who have called GRRM a short, fat, ugly, comic book superfan, horny old dude, am "riding his dick" is a pretty good indicator that you're arguing with emotion rather than fact.
Disagree with anything I've said? Great, point it out. "Riding his dick" is bitch talk.
He did work on Twilight Zone and Beauty and the Beast (with Linda Hamilton), but he was writing long before that. I would argue that he learned more from comics. But that's kind of neither here nor there.
Have you read the books? They are very different from the HBO show, and the show is far more salacious. Puerility? Not too much of that. Shock? Yes, there were some shocking scenes, but those were more shocking for what happened rather than being pornographic. I'd say what was shocking more than anything was that in the vast majority of fantasy novels, main characters don't die. If they do die, their character arc was clearly leading there.
Duke Press is an embarrassment to publishing, the university, and modern life.
Rachel Dolezal / Shawn King part 2??
I would disagree. He IS talented at making movies that a lot of people want to see and presumably very talented at sales pitches, networking, the directorial process, etc.
I may not like the product, but I also would not deny that he is talented.
EDIT: I would also say that people who make statements like "GRRM is a no talent hack" are no different than the people who say things like "Trump is an imbecile who has never succeeded in business." The evidence says otherwise.
Tolkien had talent, GRRM doesn't?
GRRM has been writing for 50 years. He's won Hugos, Nebulas, Locus awards, etc. He's had NY Times bestsellers. He's had his works turned into very popular (at least at first!) TV shows.
That's your definition of no talent?
On a personal level he has donated and invested his money in a number of businesses--Meow Wolf (which is crazy awesome), an active locomotive museum, a historic movie theater, etc. That kind of positive local economic activity is a big deal.
Yeah, I agree. Some of his earlier works, like his science fiction, is really interesting. I reread the first 3 books of GoT multiple times. I've read 4 and 5 a single time each. If he finishes the series, I'll reread it all. If not, I doubt I'll read it again.
Since the early days of the books, GRRM has openly said that Tyrion is his favorite character, that he relates to Samwell, and that being short and fat himself, it's no surprise that he relates with those two.
I guess we should only read attractive authors?
Linking to Reddit's MenWritingWomen, where any expression of masculine sexuality is "ew gross"? Really?
GRRM is a big ole working-class 1950s New Jersey style leftist, and he always has been. He's a "superfan" comic dork. He always has been. And yeah, he's a horny old dude. Always has been.
If you don't like his work, if you find it negative, repulsive, abhorrent, or even boring, that's fine. I'm a GRRM reader from many years before the TV show, and I'm a Tolkien reader from many years before that. I like them both. You don't have to.
This attack on GRRM because you don't like the way he looks is "mean girl laugh at the incel" bullshit.
It reaks of the nojoy feminazis who have been clutching their pearls since the TV show came out.
She's pleasant to work with and actually works. That's good enough for me.
It's a good question. I've never understood who would go to a single sex college. Having said that, a new-ish coworker of mine did her undergrad at a woman's only school. She's delightful and pretty based for a 20-something (relatively speaking, that is).
Disclaimer that I don't play DF, and I've only idly followed it over the years.
Well, it's two brothers who make Dwarf Fortress. It's been their sole work for more than a decade.
One brother--Tarn/Toady--has a PhD in math and does all of the coding. The other brother--Zach/Threetoes--does design I guess? He also writes and does website updates. He got married a few years back. I'm assuming he's the leading force on gender and BLM and what not.
Regardless of their politics, they're creating something that is crazy, awesome, and a lot of fun for a lot of people. That's worth more than most of the grifters out there.
He also announced features to cater to gender identity extremists and banned everyone who complained, causing him to lose donations.
Losing donations is not true, or at least negligibly true.
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=179406.0
2020 and 2021 were the two biggest donation years ever, at ~$130k, with 2020 being slightly higher.
2022, with two months to go, they're already at a record high of $135k, and theyshould finish the year around $165k.
Lol, that bicep tho.