+1 for learning Nipponese. If you enjoy a lot of Japanese games, anime, music, and/or other forms of culture, you will not regret it. Easily one of the best decisions I've ever made. Avoiding shitty localization shenanigans is merely one slice of the fulfillment pie.
There are awesome resources for Japanese online. Back in the day to learn grammar I went through Tae Kim's grammar guide. Annoying to link since I'm on my phone atm but a simple Google search will find it. However nowadays it seems many people consider Wasabi to be better (Google Wasabi Japanese grammar guide).
For Kanji and vocab I would recommend Anki to build yourself a foundation. It's a SRS flashcard program that people make custom decks for. On the shared decks page there are tons for Japanese.
Once you have a good base of vocab and grammar I would recommend just watching a ton of anime in Japanese or listening to a lot music or basically doing anything that exposes you to Japanese spoken by native speakers. If there are subtitles, make sure to actively think about the Japanese being said and think about how those subtitles were derived from the original Japanese. Sounds like a pain in the ass but doing this enabled me to learn Japanese way better than I learned Spanish in school, and I think my school's Spanish program was actually quite good. Tons of immersion is the key to comprehension that approaches native level.
As for apps, I know Tae Kim used to have one, and I know there's an Anki app. There are some decent ones to drill Kanji and vocab. "Obenkyou" and "Kanji tree" were decent in my opinion back in the day. Also, anyone who wants to learn should familiarize themselves with jisho.org as a good online dictionary. As for a dictionary mobile app, the one I use is simply called "Japanese" and is published by renzo Inc.
Other than that, the Daily Japanese Thread (djt) on /jp/ probably has a lot of good resources in the OP of their threads.
Feel free to shoot me a message if you have any questions. I know that might be a lot to take in, but there are a lot of good resources out there for Japanese.
People defend games like they have equity in it now. Instead of criticizing bad action, they are okay with covering it up to make sure it sells and other people play. Only once it becomes undeniably obvious, then the shills have to back off. DOA6 is the classic example.
If they truly advocate for destroying a game and promoting censorship like that and try to say "its to get others to play", then treat those people like trojan horses and call them out for it, cause they probably are trojan horses.
You can tell who is honest and who are the subversives. Once the game flops, the honest ones will admit fault. The subversives will continue to say the censorship didn't go far enough, or remain silent as if they never tried to defend or push for censorship.
I managed to convert a few of the honest ones who had a stance of "fanservice isn't important, it's fine to remove it" into "stop removing fanservice, just leave it alone for the fans who enjoy it and continue to improve on gameplay".
censorship know in pso2 so far copypaste from a youtube comment:
censorship list (includes the one the video missed and newest censorship).
-Minimum Max height for character creation increased from 138cm JP version to 150cm western version to stop the creation of loli or shota characters
-Critical story Cutscenes where characters would appear naked despite never actually showing anything. have such characters clothed and lines changed
-Hot bath cutscenes removed from the game
-Smart innerwear (is the default underwear in-game) is altered or removed. (keep in mind that you cannot go around walking in just your innerwear, it will be always covered by another layer of costume. but costumes that alter your character completely and allow your character to go around in a thong such as sexy bikini are implemented).
-tiddies Jiggle physic was removed at launch (players claim it was implemented after a bit back in-game).
-Female and Male gender name tags on the doors of locker rooms in the guild base Hotspring map has been removed. (this prove the political drive behind the censorship)
-Auxiliary partners height altered too (aux. partners are alike of pets but use the same character creation of players is like shorty dolls)
-Randoseru, school swimsuit(released), the version "tiny" of certain costumes possibly being banned too
-The flavor text of multiple in-game weapons has only a default generic text.
-PSO2 new genesis (new game which should release in 2012) trailer is censored in the west. The Japanese trailer shows the characters’ underwear for just a second. at minute 1:17 the English trailer has such part removed.
-The original name of the villain of the game “Darkers” from the Japanese version was changed into “Falzspawns” in west version to not offend black people
-2/3 of the weapons of the game are currently not obtainable in the western version. this is unlikely to be due to censorship but rather to the fact that such weapons are outdated gamewise. (but in this game you can apply the skin of other weapons on your current weapon for aesthetic purpose. therefore this is a wide limitation)
-The set of weapons called the Slave series, where each one is "Slave ___". In Japan, such as "Slave Calibur" have been renamed to "Raven".
-The Auxiliary partner's lines where they adress the player as "Master". has been modified to afress the player as "Handler"
-The term "blacklist" has been changed to "blocklist"
-Hariette Battlewear [Ba] costume has been censored and the cleavage has been covered
He can't help himself he needs to find some excuse to turn it in to tribal politics against right wingers even though its 100% leftists yet this guy is blaming right wingers. its not right wingers that are offended, those censoring are from California and also right wingers don't get offended by the words "blacklist" and "master", and these days its leftists are the ones getting offended by sexy female outfit in fiction as well.
i'd think there would be undecided lurkers, though i'm surprise that you are insinuating that the subreddit are not based, if they are players of this sort of game .
Trust me, a lot of them do. They are stuck in the early 2000s, when the religious right actually had a nontrivial amount of sway over the culture. Like the way they talk would make you suspect they'd been in a coma since 2000.
Also worthy of mention: the global version of Action Taimanin came out yesterday. Anyone that’s followed this game knows about the censorship in the iOS version of even the Japanese release. Then came the announcement of the global version and Steam version. ESRB for it? E10. And the Steam version isn’t censored at all. No mandatory tights over thighs and exposed cleavage.
Yeah, definitely not spending any more money on this game, and I was fucking hyped for PSO2 global. This is goddamn ridiculous.
Reminder: this game has an ESRB rating of “M.” Even just had an important character drop the word “fucked” in the story!
+1 for learning Nipponese. If you enjoy a lot of Japanese games, anime, music, and/or other forms of culture, you will not regret it. Easily one of the best decisions I've ever made. Avoiding shitty localization shenanigans is merely one slice of the fulfillment pie.
yeah but where do you even start with that?
i already have trouble finding some decent stuff to re-learn italian (had it in school).
you got some nice chilled app to slowly slip in, some actual coursework or just these shitty duolingo crap?
There are awesome resources for Japanese online. Back in the day to learn grammar I went through Tae Kim's grammar guide. Annoying to link since I'm on my phone atm but a simple Google search will find it. However nowadays it seems many people consider Wasabi to be better (Google Wasabi Japanese grammar guide).
For Kanji and vocab I would recommend Anki to build yourself a foundation. It's a SRS flashcard program that people make custom decks for. On the shared decks page there are tons for Japanese.
Once you have a good base of vocab and grammar I would recommend just watching a ton of anime in Japanese or listening to a lot music or basically doing anything that exposes you to Japanese spoken by native speakers. If there are subtitles, make sure to actively think about the Japanese being said and think about how those subtitles were derived from the original Japanese. Sounds like a pain in the ass but doing this enabled me to learn Japanese way better than I learned Spanish in school, and I think my school's Spanish program was actually quite good. Tons of immersion is the key to comprehension that approaches native level.
As for apps, I know Tae Kim used to have one, and I know there's an Anki app. There are some decent ones to drill Kanji and vocab. "Obenkyou" and "Kanji tree" were decent in my opinion back in the day. Also, anyone who wants to learn should familiarize themselves with jisho.org as a good online dictionary. As for a dictionary mobile app, the one I use is simply called "Japanese" and is published by renzo Inc.
Other than that, the Daily Japanese Thread (djt) on /jp/ probably has a lot of good resources in the OP of their threads.
Feel free to shoot me a message if you have any questions. I know that might be a lot to take in, but there are a lot of good resources out there for Japanese.
wow, thanks man, guess i don't have excuses to not do something productive on the train now.
People defend games like they have equity in it now. Instead of criticizing bad action, they are okay with covering it up to make sure it sells and other people play. Only once it becomes undeniably obvious, then the shills have to back off. DOA6 is the classic example.
If they truly advocate for destroying a game and promoting censorship like that and try to say "its to get others to play", then treat those people like trojan horses and call them out for it, cause they probably are trojan horses.
You can tell who is honest and who are the subversives. Once the game flops, the honest ones will admit fault. The subversives will continue to say the censorship didn't go far enough, or remain silent as if they never tried to defend or push for censorship.
I managed to convert a few of the honest ones who had a stance of "fanservice isn't important, it's fine to remove it" into "stop removing fanservice, just leave it alone for the fans who enjoy it and continue to improve on gameplay".
Uninstalled this a few days ago.
I'm not going to participate in the westernization of things I love purely because they are not western.
why are they so hellbent on doing this shit? It's just a population of losers on Twitters that complain about this stuff and real gamers hate it. Why?
censorship know in pso2 so far copypaste from a youtube comment:
Better off not trying, you know they don’t unironically believe that.
He can't help himself he needs to find some excuse to turn it in to tribal politics against right wingers even though its 100% leftists yet this guy is blaming right wingers. its not right wingers that are offended, those censoring are from California and also right wingers don't get offended by the words "blacklist" and "master", and these days its leftists are the ones getting offended by sexy female outfit in fiction as well.
i'd think there would be undecided lurkers, though i'm surprise that you are insinuating that the subreddit are not based, if they are players of this sort of game .
its probably a butthurt SJW lurker here using two accounts downvoting us. .
Trust me, a lot of them do. They are stuck in the early 2000s, when the religious right actually had a nontrivial amount of sway over the culture. Like the way they talk would make you suspect they'd been in a coma since 2000.
Also worthy of mention: the global version of Action Taimanin came out yesterday. Anyone that’s followed this game knows about the censorship in the iOS version of even the Japanese release. Then came the announcement of the global version and Steam version. ESRB for it? E10. And the Steam version isn’t censored at all. No mandatory tights over thighs and exposed cleavage.