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Dune trailer uses "crusade"
posted 5 years ago by rainingblood 5 years ago by rainingblood +44 / -0
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– Neilcuckman666 32 points 5 years ago +32 / -0

it was always going to be woke

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– JustHereForTheSalmon 13 points 5 years ago +13 / -0

Thankfully, the true Dune is still available. Grab a used copy of physical media and no one will be able to take it from your.

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– 2020yall 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

You mean the book, right? Because the movie in the 80's also sucked.

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– Throwawaycuzmeh 25 points 5 years ago +25 / -0

There are currently three screenplay writers listed:

Eric Roth (Forrest Gump, The Insider, The Curious Case of Benjamin Button - old school writer, might not be woke idiot)

Jon Spaihts (Prometheus, The Mummy 2017, Passengers - he’s a hack, probably a woke idiot)

Denis himself (nothing major or recent, but he seems generally competent)

So the story could range anywhere from total garbage to relatively good.

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– JuliasEbola00 12 points 5 years ago +12 / -0

In regards to, Villeneuve. The backdrop to Incendies was the Christian v Muslim war in Lebanon. If I remember correctly the film focused heavily on the Christian side being bad more so than the Muslim side, even though it was the Muslims who eventually came to dominate.

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– Throwawaycuzmeh 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

Well that's discouraging.

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– Knife-TotingRat 23 points 5 years ago +23 / -0

Oh, ffs, the desert people are heavily based on Bedouin culture, and for a VERY good reason - it's well-adapted to super-dry desert conditions, for good or ill (raiding culture would be a side effect of living in a resource-scarce environment.) To use their language is just to reinforce the likely genetic and cultural origins of the human coloninist descendants themselves, and give the work its flavour. I mean, hell, the names Atreides and Harkonnen suggest right away a Greek vs Turkish/Ottoman metaphor right there.

And the Crusades were seen by Christians as being a WAR OF LIBERATION, whereas a Jihad is a war against the infidel. If I remember the books correctly, Crusade might actually be a more accurate word, though, now that I think of it. The Bedouin type people didn't want to be slaves to the spice cartel or something. Haven't read it since I was a teenager.

Not defending the change, but it did occur that the change might not have the psychological effect the art-rapists want it to have.

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– veus_dolt 13 points 5 years ago +13 / -0

That was the first thing that struck me...

The Butlerian Jihad was literally the salvation of humanity and the direct avoidance of extinction, so now they've gone and replaced a good jihad with a good crusade.

Then, Paul's jihad is a looming horror he's desparate to avoid or mitigate though he knows it can't be stopped, so by making it a crusade, they're making those noble fremen into dirty colonialist crusaders.

Can we get Maree Stoermer Coleman screaming deus vult in the next trailer maybe...?

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– Galean 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

I hope it turns out ok but I am worried as well.

I am going to wait for reviews first and see how much political bs is pushing. In today's climate is impossible to not push at least a bit of leftist politics in to movies. So I expect some other gender swaps, a diversity quota so we get some mixed race utopia going on, a bit of feminism but hopefully not to much and of course LGBTQPP+

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– tacticaltossaway 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

where all anti leader sentiment was removed and Paul was a benevolent superhero?

But Paul is a Benevolent Superhero. He's Mighty Mouse.

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– deleted 8 points 5 years ago +8 / -0

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