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archive.is brave drama has returned, brave nuked an account for being Russian and the owner of archive.is compared brave banning countries from service for policing issues with racial discrimination. (web.archive.org)
posted 5 years ago by AbleistSL 5 years ago by AbleistSL +24 / -0
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– chinesevirus 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

So looks like Brave doesn't pay out to people who live in certain countries and the owner of archive.is is retaliating by blocking the browser from accessing the service. Why is Brave at fault here? Am I missing something?

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– ToaKraka 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

The archiver's argument is that blocking everyone in a country based on the fraudulent activities of just a few people in that country is "nationalist" and just as unsupportable as racial discrimination.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

One could apply that same argument to IP bans: in a network where IPs are assigned dynamically, blocking an IP based on the activities of one person assigned that address is similarly unsupportable.

Curious exactly what tools they expect an admin to use to prevent abuse, given that any tool uses some imperfect heuristic to discriminate.

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– Galean 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

Any chance this blows over? I like Brave so far.

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– silentagony 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Has anyone tried Vivaldi?

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– enevold 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

works fine

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– SturmMilfEnthusiast 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

I did. It worked well enough, but I recall having some hangups with the interface. I don't even remember specifically what now, but my impression was that they were changing things just for the sake of being different.

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– deleted 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0
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– AbleistSL [S] 17 points 5 years ago +17 / -0

firefox is controlled by regressive leftists.

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– CptLightning 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

Then use one of the many forks not operated by Mozilla. I'm partial to Waterfox. I know some people love Pale Moon

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– VerGreeneyes 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Unfortunately true, though the engine itself is still written by a bunch of very competent programmers, who manage to more or less keep up with Chrome despite having only half as many people.

Mozilla did just announce that they're firing 250 people because they were hit hard by the coronavirus (or maybe their support of BLM, but they probably wouldn't admit that even if they knew it to be true). With any luck most of the people they're laying off will be activists, but I'm not holding my breath.

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– mikhalych 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

or maybe their support of BLM

If I were a betting man, my money would rather be on "for insufficiently vocal support for BLM". Mozilla is converged as fuck.

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– VerGreeneyes 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Mozilla is, but I don't think they get a lot of funding for being progressive. The activists they're trying to appeal to don't give a shit about privacy or a free and open web, and Mozilla will never be as progressive or valuable to them as Google is.

That's why I think their progressive posturing only hurts them, financially. A lot of the people who might be interested in donating to Mozilla out of a desire to oppose Google are turned away by their political leanings. But I doubt Mozilla will change - the actual programmers might not spend a lot of time on progressive activism, but the upper echelons and HR have been completely taken over.

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– vrynix 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Pale Moon maybe?

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