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According to Archive.is, Brave is using "nationalist rhetoric" as cover for stealing crypto tokens. (blog.archive.today)
posted 5 years ago by JustHereForTheSalmon 5 years ago by JustHereForTheSalmon +16 / -0
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– 666sadfrogs 15 points 5 years ago +15 / -0

Fucking hell. I guess I need to switch browsers just so I don’t have to deal with this stupid drama. I don’t know if the allegations against Brave are true or not, but considering the complaint is “nationalist rhetoric” I am assuming that the accusers are biased against the browser.

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– Voluntaryism 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

Even the affiliate link thing. It's innocuous and hurts nobody. My main qualm is that they're in bed with Amazon in the first place.

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– Grumman 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

The affiliate link thing is a serious breach of trust. Had it been implemented as an opt-in system it would be fine, but if you try to navigate to a particular address the browser better have a damn good reason for hijacking that request, and "it makes me money" doesn't cut it.

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– Voluntaryism 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

"It hurts nobody"

That's a pretty good excuse Brave could use, but they don't, apparently because they lack brain cells. Amazon at large, however, does hurt people, and being an amazon affiliate associates you with them, making you the indirect cause of suffering.

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– Grumman 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Unlike a real affiliate, Brave isn't encouraging people to buy from Amazon, they're just passively shaving off a commission from purchases people were already making. So even if I agreed with your view of Amazon, being "associated" with Amazon is not helping Amazon when the relationship is purely parasitic.

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– JustHereForTheSalmon [S] 15 points 5 years ago +15 / -0

In continuing the spat, Brave browser is now blocked from using Archive, neither creating nor viewing.

They have Tor Browser in the list of suggestions, but the idea that they also put Chrome in there is pretty laughable IMO.

Interesting sidenote: blog.archive.today is blacklisted from being itself archived. A bit of a case of rules for thee not for me.

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– Eltrion 9 points 5 years ago +9 / -0

So, is there any legitimacy to this? Should I switch off of Brave or is the archive.is just pitching a fit?

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– JustHereForTheSalmon [S] 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Try visiting an archive link. There will be a full-screen "outdated browser".

If not, please, tell me which extensions you're running :)

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– Eltrion 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

Yes I definitely see it. I just want to know if there was actual unethical activity on brave's part that I should be aware of, or if there is a greater context I'm missing.

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– bigbear51 8 points 5 years ago +8 / -0

https://archive.vn/hsgsS This was what got me to uninstall the browser. Sneaking in affiliate links is really not something I'd look for in a browser that claims privacy.

But regardless of whatever Brave or any other web browser that exists does. I wouldn't want Archive to be blacklisting anything on that basis because of their own feelings on the matters.

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– when_we_win_remember 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Basically the latter. If you use cryptocurrency and you punch in a website it adds something onto the URL. I'm not shilling but the main problem I have with Brave is archive.is links don't work. And then archive is all disingenuous about it claiming the browser isn't "supported" like they need to go out of their way to support Brave when in fact they're just being little bitches and refusing to serve pages

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– Grumman 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Interesting sidenote: blog.archive.today is blacklisted from being itself archived. A bit of a case of rules for thee not for me.

It's more likely that they blacklist their own domains to prevent nested archives, rather than having an ulterior motive.

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