Minimum wage should be higher. And if illegal immigrants are paid as much as everyone else, there would be less illegal immigration. Why do you think illegal immigrants are able to enter illegally and get jobs instead of enter illegally and starve to death? Why do you think they get the support of all these politicians and companies? Because employers don't have to pay them as much as everyone else. So everything she said is in fact, not retarded. It would put an end to illegal immigration and a lot of other issues.
By disagreeing with her, you are in favor of the status quo and that means you are in favor of all the things that turned America into a shitty country.
You think people will be less likely to enter the country illegally if they are guaranteed an even higher wage?
You think businesses, saddled with higher minimum wages, will be less likely to seek out employees whom they can abuse in other ways by leveraging illegal status?
If they are guaranteed a higher wage, who is going to break the law to hire them? There is no reason to do so at that point. The only thing that makes these people appealing is not having to pay them fair wages.
You think businesses, saddled with higher minimum wages, will be less likely to seek out employees whom they can abuse in other ways by leveraging illegal status?
It wont be worth it for them to hire illegal immigrants at that point, no matter what. They will become too expensive.
You think businesses, saddled with higher minimum wages, will be less likely to seek out employees whom they can abuse in other ways by leveraging illegal status?
I'm discussing a scenario involving a nation where laws are actually enforced. In a completely lawless nation where businesses can just do whatever they want 24/7, then there is no solution whatsoever to any problem regardless if they are coming from people who are retarded or not. Because then every business is just able to operate like criminal gangs. And then the status quo will remain the same with illegal immigrants flooding in to be used as cheap slave labor. But in a nation where businesses are forced to not behave like criminals and are forced to pay illegal immigrants, the same as everyone else and where it's illegal to hire illegal immigrants, why would they want to hire illegal immigrants then? In a nation where laws are enforced, it's not worth it to break laws unless it is lucrative.
If the American people are just content with the status quo or worse defending it and nothing gets done to make sure businesses adhere to laws, then they are all completely fucked no matter what anyway. And this discussion is pointless. But in a country with laws that apply to businesses and are actually enforced, what she is saying would improve the country. Because breaking laws to hire illegal immigrants at that point, would just be insanely stupid.
What she is saying would actually dismantle the entire fucking system that is responsible for this shit in the first place. The cheap slave system that makes people without morals salivate 24/7 over illegal immigrants. And give in to temptation. If nothing is done to eliminate the option of cheap slaves, people with no morals will never ever stop allowing cheap slaves to flood their country. All the people who think she is a retard, what is their solution? More deportations? ICE be given more power? Well without destroying the cheap slave system, all those illegal immigrants who are deported will be smuggled back 100% or businesses will just buy politicians who will make it so illegal immigrants don't get tracked down and deported anymore by changing laws or politicians who will neuter ICE.
What she is saying will not result in all these illegal immigrants flooding the USA and being paid well. And living their best life. And then telling their family back at home, the USA is an amazing place to live. LOL What she is saying will result in them maybe entering the USA illegally and every employer telling them to fuck off. Because the cheap slave labor loopholes are all gone now. Everything we are seeing is just symptoms of a disease. And that disease is the desire for cheap slave labor. The kind of people who want cheap slave labor. And these people being able to get away with making use of cheap slave labor. Because that is why these people are making it so easy for people from other countries to come in and work.
And if illegal immigrants are paid as much as everyone else, there would be less illegal immigration.
Nah, it's actually more cost effective to just put an enormous minefield on the southern border, and have a standing bounty for anyone who doesn't speak English.
Because employers don't have to pay them as much as everyone else.
Ah yes, the old "criminal labor would totally abide by the law" canard.
Or, hear me out here. Maybe we'd have less crime of any and every variety if we actually punished criminals in a meaningful way?
By disagreeing with her, you are in favor of the status quo
You are just arguing for slavery when you say shit like that. And as long as slavery is allowed, the disease will continue to exist. And fighting the symptoms is just futile. Putting an enormous minefield on the southern border wont help as long as slavery is still allowed because the people who want slaves will be motivated to find ways to allow people to pass over it safely in order to live and work in the USA. And they will literally just get rid of this minefield if they have to do so in a future administration.
You are just arguing for slavery when you say shit like that.
No, I'm arguing for a nation whose government values the lawful and legitimate citizens first and foremost, and for individual valuation to be absent of external and unjustified pressure.
Oh, and let's also outlaw unions. Every other form of racketeering is illegal, might as well make it consistent.
You are still arguing for slavery. And like I said, as long as there is slavery, no other solution will do anything to stop people from other countries entering the country, working and living. So don't say I didn't warn you when the USA is like 95% brown slaves. But maybe that is what you secretly want...
Your understanding of economics is "slavery is good." So I'm not the one being retarded here. It's not my thought process that is destroying the West. It is yours, after all. My thought process doesn't lead to people wanting to import as many brown slaves as possible into the West to cut labor cost. In fact, it's your kind of thinking that is the #1 cause of the destruction of the white race and all they created. But maybe you want everything to be reduced to a plantation that is 95% brown slaves. So maybe you aren't retarded. There's groups of people on this Earth who want this. But if you don't want that, then you shouldn't put slavery and greed on a pedestal above everything else. And call everyone who doesn't, a retard who doesn't understand economics.
Minimum wage should be higher. And if illegal immigrants are paid as much as everyone else, there would be less illegal immigration. Why do you think illegal immigrants are able to enter illegally and get jobs instead of enter illegally and starve to death? Why do you think they get the support of all these politicians and companies? Because employers don't have to pay them as much as everyone else. So everything she said is in fact, not retarded. It would put an end to illegal immigration and a lot of other issues.
By disagreeing with her, you are in favor of the status quo and that means you are in favor of all the things that turned America into a shitty country.
You think people will be less likely to enter the country illegally if they are guaranteed an even higher wage?
You think businesses, saddled with higher minimum wages, will be less likely to seek out employees whom they can abuse in other ways by leveraging illegal status?
If they are guaranteed a higher wage, who is going to break the law to hire them? There is no reason to do so at that point. The only thing that makes these people appealing is not having to pay them fair wages.
It wont be worth it for them to hire illegal immigrants at that point, no matter what. They will become too expensive.
I'm discussing a scenario involving a nation where laws are actually enforced. In a completely lawless nation where businesses can just do whatever they want 24/7, then there is no solution whatsoever to any problem regardless if they are coming from people who are retarded or not. Because then every business is just able to operate like criminal gangs. And then the status quo will remain the same with illegal immigrants flooding in to be used as cheap slave labor. But in a nation where businesses are forced to not behave like criminals and are forced to pay illegal immigrants, the same as everyone else and where it's illegal to hire illegal immigrants, why would they want to hire illegal immigrants then? In a nation where laws are enforced, it's not worth it to break laws unless it is lucrative.
If the American people are just content with the status quo or worse defending it and nothing gets done to make sure businesses adhere to laws, then they are all completely fucked no matter what anyway. And this discussion is pointless. But in a country with laws that apply to businesses and are actually enforced, what she is saying would improve the country. Because breaking laws to hire illegal immigrants at that point, would just be insanely stupid.
What she is saying would actually dismantle the entire fucking system that is responsible for this shit in the first place. The cheap slave system that makes people without morals salivate 24/7 over illegal immigrants. And give in to temptation. If nothing is done to eliminate the option of cheap slaves, people with no morals will never ever stop allowing cheap slaves to flood their country. All the people who think she is a retard, what is their solution? More deportations? ICE be given more power? Well without destroying the cheap slave system, all those illegal immigrants who are deported will be smuggled back 100% or businesses will just buy politicians who will make it so illegal immigrants don't get tracked down and deported anymore by changing laws or politicians who will neuter ICE.
What she is saying will not result in all these illegal immigrants flooding the USA and being paid well. And living their best life. And then telling their family back at home, the USA is an amazing place to live. LOL What she is saying will result in them maybe entering the USA illegally and every employer telling them to fuck off. Because the cheap slave labor loopholes are all gone now. Everything we are seeing is just symptoms of a disease. And that disease is the desire for cheap slave labor. The kind of people who want cheap slave labor. And these people being able to get away with making use of cheap slave labor. Because that is why these people are making it so easy for people from other countries to come in and work.
Minimum wage should not exist.
Nah, it's actually more cost effective to just put an enormous minefield on the southern border, and have a standing bounty for anyone who doesn't speak English.
Ah yes, the old "criminal labor would totally abide by the law" canard.
Or, hear me out here. Maybe we'd have less crime of any and every variety if we actually punished criminals in a meaningful way?
No, not that thing you made up.
You are just arguing for slavery when you say shit like that. And as long as slavery is allowed, the disease will continue to exist. And fighting the symptoms is just futile. Putting an enormous minefield on the southern border wont help as long as slavery is still allowed because the people who want slaves will be motivated to find ways to allow people to pass over it safely in order to live and work in the USA. And they will literally just get rid of this minefield if they have to do so in a future administration.
No, I'm arguing for a nation whose government values the lawful and legitimate citizens first and foremost, and for individual valuation to be absent of external and unjustified pressure.
Oh, and let's also outlaw unions. Every other form of racketeering is illegal, might as well make it consistent.
You are still arguing for slavery. And like I said, as long as there is slavery, no other solution will do anything to stop people from other countries entering the country, working and living. So don't say I didn't warn you when the USA is like 95% brown slaves. But maybe that is what you secretly want...
You're understanding of economics is literally just as retarded as hers. Change your name to prosimp
Your understanding of economics is "slavery is good." So I'm not the one being retarded here. It's not my thought process that is destroying the West. It is yours, after all. My thought process doesn't lead to people wanting to import as many brown slaves as possible into the West to cut labor cost. In fact, it's your kind of thinking that is the #1 cause of the destruction of the white race and all they created. But maybe you want everything to be reduced to a plantation that is 95% brown slaves. So maybe you aren't retarded. There's groups of people on this Earth who want this. But if you don't want that, then you shouldn't put slavery and greed on a pedestal above everything else. And call everyone who doesn't, a retard who doesn't understand economics.