They're just contrails, youre crazy!
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I noticed this on my own over 30 years ago, just by staring out the classroom window all day and wondering why so many planes would fly in zig-zags. This conspiracy is much older than the flat earf psyop. And it's been proven over and over again to be true.
Still, this subject seems to be the most controversial of them all, no matter who I bring it up to. Like, I could talk about the fake holobunga to a liberal woman, bring up the holocoaster and the soap and the lampshades and the electrified floors; and she wouldn't have nearly the shocked reaction as if I were to say "those clouds are artificial".
Not trying to comment either way on the legitimacy of your claims, just genuinely curious. What do you think is the goal of it if it is indeed artificial?
The usual first question is "why would they do that?".
The official reasoning is weather modification.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_seeding
But we don't know what exactly is being sprayed so we can only speculate reasons for it and what could be done with method and technology. But it is absolutely true that planes spray chemicals over our heads almost daily and there is nothing we can do about it.
Pure speculation, but with enough control over the water cycle you could, I don't know, create droughts to raise temperature far above historical levels in specific, populated regions in order to push the idea of anthromorphic climate change, then use the ensuing panic to get funds and political support to create further "100 year weather events", etc.
A mistake could poison an entire region. So could a "mistake". We all have vax spike proteins despite not taking the vax.
In many cases we do. The residue has been gathered where it fell, tested, and identified.
Water vapor is NOT the issue!
Further, where I live now, it stopped completely and very abruptly when HAARP ended. (It didn't actually end, it changed hands)
I tell people I am allergic to chemtrails. Still waiting to get my disability check....
Flat Earth took a whole lot of valid theories, and tarnished them by coopting, and attaching them to the words ," flat earth".
I haven't seen any FE theories that weren't just people not understanding math.
Could you elaborate?
They took Electeic Universe. They took so many. I can't recall off the top of my head. But, Electric Universe is a good example. The man is dead, he can't say his theory was about plasma physics IN SPACE. They use all his talking points as proof for flat earth. But, the EU's entire premise is that Earth started as a moon of Saturn, and when the universe had shit going on we moved to the spot we are now.
He theorizes that why rock art looks like plasma physics. Because that is what our ancestors saw when they looked up at the sky.
https://youtu.be/Gouqy4OghyY
I feel like the way they grabbed all the valid but alternative theories up proved they were a physop.
This is really interesting!
I like Expanding Earth (EE) theory. RA Wilson liked it too (although it is impossible to tell if he was serious or joking, eh?) that's where I learned about it.
That matter is spontaneously created is a proven science. It is instantly destroyed by the anti-matter that is created alongside it though. But suppose at the bottom of a gravity well (the core of a planet for example) the matter remained & the anti-matter went somewhere else? That planet or sun would increase in mass! And volume too.
So over billions of years the Earth, sun and every large thing has been increasing in mass. The orbits would stay the same, probably, even as gravity increased. Growing from the inside explains a few things that tectonic theory glazes over. It also explains why dinosaurs were huge: gravity was weaker back then. Why are rotation is slowing: increasing mass will do that.
It's just a theory though, very hard to prove!
The way the continents fit together makes me think that one is pretty interesting.
I'd never heard of that, very interesting! Thanks for explaining it so well.
Isn't it interesting how the timeline of weather modification lines up almost perfectly with the timeline for "global warming"?
Jet planes have been in use since the 50s, but the chemtrail stuff really only dates back to the 80s, just after the climate apocalypse predictions started.
But what would they have to gain..?
WW2 aircraft had vapor trails too. They were fast & high enough to produce them.
Not every plane makes them, it depends entirely on humidity at that altitude. Plane without vapor trails can be hard to spot. If you go to a very quiet place (like Easterville MB) you can hear them though!
Thus: many planes fly around without vapor trails & the correlation with humidity levels is likely 1:1.
Not just vapour trails, though, the idea that "chemtrails" are creating weather patterns.
There are a bunch of different ideas bumping into each other here.
Vapour trails are contemporary to jet engines and make little clouds due to the precipitate they give off, depending on conditions. Nothing weird at all.
"Chemtrails" which are, supposedly, substances dropped on us but, as I mentioned elsewhere, if they're dropping poison we wouldn't see it.
Then there's this weird dispersal phenomenon in OPs pictures. I first saw this maybe ten years ago, but maybe it's been longer. I never saw this 30 years ago.
What passenger aircraft "fly zig-zag" across the sky? You'd think the passengers would, you know, notice that!
The high-altitude winds can push the vapor trails this way and that, they are entirely unrelated to surface winds.
I watched them too as a child. One trail would get pushed, making a shape similar to the "cents" symbol. Another would come along & the same thing would happen. The planes were flying straight even if the vapor trails were not.
We had a lot more planes overhead back then, the routes have changed over the decades. I'm up in Manitoba eh? If you go farther north, like to Easterville MB? You can hear the jets overhead but unless there's a vapor trail they're really hard to see! So the trails have a high correlation to humidity, perhaps 1:1. No vast conspiracy required.
I'm not ruling it out, the US army did spray my city with a radioactive agent back in '58 & City Hall kept it a secret for 40~odd years...
As someone who's actually flown planes, there's actually a reason they might, albeit you are highly unlikely to see it a ton with passenger planes for obvious reasons.
There are a few different manuevers to "slow down" the trajectory of a plane and sometimes taking "S-turns" is one of them. It's not like a car where you can put on the brakes. In the air a plane gets too slow it ceases being a flying object and becomes a falling one. Being that this is also how a plane lands, by slowing down so much at just the right time that the plane no longer flies, they are often going quite slow when near the ground. So if there's a problem and you are approaching the plane in front too quickly, you can S-turn (weave) from side to side to go slower. Remember too that these turns may be huge from the perception of being inside the plane in the air, and appear small on the ground.
So, if you have a busy airport where 10 planes all show up around the same time with the intent to land, they have to be sequenced somehow. ATC will have the pilots more often fly in a holding pattern or a circle than S-turns, but that's not to say S-turns never happen. Same as if you're on a plane that may have some trouble. That doesn't mean it's about to crash, just that something doesn't check out to the pilots satisfaction they may choose to remain in the air, which is relatively safe, and sort it out. That would be some sort of holding pattern too. There are loads and loads of reasons planes just don't fly in straight lines from point A to B.
But the planes making vapor trails aren't the ones coming in to land. They're in mid-flight and unlikely to be climbing or descending very much at all. They can easily throttle up or down if (for example) headwinds increase or decrease. No need to put unnecessary strain on the aircraft by making unneeded maneuvers.
They don't fly in a straight line on long distance hauls, they use the curvature of the Earth to make the trip shorter! You know that of course. That means a big curve on the map, but essentially straight while in mid-flight. Scheduled turns (course adjustments) are common I'm sure.
A lot of the ones I've noticed looked pretty clearly on a higher stage of an ascent, but I've also rarely noticed zig-zags. They could be fighter jets, which fly around a lot more than most might think and aren't super predictable in what they do.
Still though, I'm checking out of this discussion now. I'm not sure there's an on ramp to convince me, and it's because of what I said before. I just do not have the mindset to sprint to maximum complicated conspiracy when the easy solution is feasible. If the government/world were to alter weather or poison the populace or something, they could find much simpler ways than a complex conspiracy to secret manipulate passenger airplanes for decades to distribute whatever. Sometimes the answer is the obvious one, not the full tinfoil hat.