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Starfleet Academy ends even worse than you might expect. Paul Giamatti's lowly space pirate character puts 2-D minefield around a massive 3-D space & is Space Trump (www.youtube.com)
posted 78 days ago by YesMovement 78 days ago by YesMovement +29 / -0
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– YesMovement [S] 8 points 78 days ago +8 / -0

Timestamp 24:45 for the Trump bit.

12:25 for the minefield bit. tl;dw is that it would take 10k ships 500-1000 years but they said in the show it was only hundreds of mines.

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– BeefyBelisarius 11 points 78 days ago +11 / -0

So tired of writers who don't understand how space battles would be different from naval battles.

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– a_based_norwegian 10 points 78 days ago +10 / -0

I recommend The Legend of the Galactic Heroes to everyone.

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– BeefyBelisarius 9 points 78 days ago +9 / -0

I'll second that. Also one of the few that shows the scale of fleets that powers owning the resources of a large chunk of a galaxy would be able to throw around.

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– Skywise 3 points 78 days ago +3 / -0

Thirded. Has anyone seen the remake version?

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... continue reading thread?
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– Ender910 9 points 78 days ago +9 / -0

Even in naval warfare minefields are only really practical when deployed in narrow and limited-"path" pockets of water. Bays, straits, etc.

Which is still a bit unpractical to pull off in open space because of how things scale vs ship size vs density requirements for sensible coverage. Plus three-dimensions of movement of course.

The few exceptions might be if you're deploying minefields near or around a stationary strategic location like a station or a small moon, but even that's going to be more costly than it's worth a lot of the time.

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– Belenus 7 points 78 days ago +7 / -0

tl;dw is that it would take 10k ships 500-1000 years

To do what? Destroyed the whole minefield? That's not even needed when trying to bypass such an obstacle. Just burrow a point to allow movement and ignore the rest.

Even throwing self replication [back] into the mix [because DS9 did that decades ago] it only took The Dominion and Cardassia a few months to take that down, and IIRC STA is in the 30 ish century, so tech for disabling is just as advanced now as setting them up would be.

Hell, just open a black hole inside the minefield and get rid of them all at once, or mine space with blackholes since the tech to make those is from before even the Picard series.

On a completely unrelated tangent, any attempts to make Picard black much now refer to the result as Pocard. This was a typo i made in the previous sentence and deserves a mention for the inevitable retarded DEIverse shitshow that will follow.

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– Sneak_King 4 points 78 days ago +4 / -0

Romulans in the TNG era use artificial singularities as power sources. They are tiny and presumably extremely unstable, but image the possibilities of weaponizing that. A black hole doesn't have to be large to wreck havoc on your antimatter containment.

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– Belenus 6 points 78 days ago +6 / -0

The Star Trek reboot movie did weaponise it. Red Matter makes blackholes. The villain drops one into the core of Vulcan.

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– Sneak_King 2 points 78 days ago +2 / -0

I can happily report I had forgotten every detail of that film.

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– YesMovement [S] 1 point 78 days ago +1 / -0

To do what? Destroyed the whole minefield

No to BUILD the minefield in the 1st place. And these contain a synthetic version of the omega particles from the Voyager episode.

And this is a character who in the 1st ep was trying to steal a warp drive new a few months later he's able to synthetize "hundreds" (in the show they claim it's only hundred of mines) of these super advanced mines featuring not only the most powerful element in the universe but a lab grown version- what kind of top of the line tech lab does a space pirate have?

Even if you imagine the Federation in this show is WAY smaller than VOY era and the mines have an extreme blast radius of 20 light years you still have to ask how a lowly space pirate could plant them around the entire federation in a short period of time without anyone noticing.

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– SicilianOmega 7 points 78 days ago +7 / -0

I believe he missed the fact that the mines are made with a material called "Omega-47." As in the 47th American President. Literal Trump mines.

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– Belenus 5 points 78 days ago +5 / -0

Was it also Omega particles? Because lore wise those would actually be enough to serious fuck up everyone nearby if they went off. By that I mean render the local space incapable of supporting warp travel.

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– YesMovement [S] 2 points 78 days ago +2 / -0

Omega-47 are synthetically created omega particles

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– Norenia 3 points 78 days ago +3 / -0

Fuck, I didn't even notice that watching the reviews. That is really fucking petty.

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