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posted 87 days ago by MuslimsWorshipSatan 87 days ago by MuslimsWorshipSatan +21 / -0
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– ChippingToe 8 points 86 days ago +8 / -0

95% of everything is garbage. I don't think this is any sort of grand revelation.

You missed the point entirely. It's not that lots of indie games are trash...the problem is that they are reviewed with way to much leniency (because being a cool gamer these days means cutting indie games miles of slack for some reason). Thus these trash indie games end up with scores that are much higher than they deserve, i.e. overrated.

It's literally the title. And he brought receipts too. Some of that shit really is rated "Overwhelmingly positive".

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– llirrem 20 points 86 days ago +20 / -0

They're reviewed with more leniency because it's expected that if you have millions of dollars and a team of seasoned experts you should be able to put out a better product than some kid living in his parent's basement.

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– horstshort 15 points 86 days ago +15 / -0

Also if it's 20$ or less for a shitty indie game instead of 60-80$ for a similar shitty AAA game it automatically has better value for money and thus deserves the better rating.

I don't expect cheap street food to be on par with expensive restaurants either. Cheap street food that's decent is good value for money. Expensive restaurant food that's only decent is bad value for money.

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– ChippingToe 3 points 86 days ago +3 / -0

That kind of meta analysis should be saved for forums and video essays. It does not belong in Steam reviews, where people are trying to figure out if the game is worth their time and money. The conditions under which the game was developed has zero impact on that.

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– SR388-SAX 4 points 86 days ago +4 / -0

people are trying to figure out if the game is worth their time and money

Let's look at that closer

worth their ... money

So you agree that the cheaper prices indies usually charge should be considered as part of the review?

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– AllDueRespect 3 points 86 days ago +3 / -0

"Indie" never reaches the $60+ mark that AAA does, but the titles are often at the $5, $10-15, and $20 price point.

A higher price than the quality warrants should be grounds for a downward ding.

A surprisingly low price shouldn't give bonus positive review points to slop. Food for pigs is food for pigs, no matter how cheap it is.

In this context, we're talking about the latter. So...

So you agree that the cheaper prices indies usually charge should be considered as part of the review?

No.

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– ChippingToe 1 point 86 days ago +1 / -0

So you agree that the cheaper prices indies usually charge should be considered as part of the review?

When used to convey whether or not it's worth the money: yes.

Insofar as "wow bonus points for shoestring budget": absolutely not.

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– Ender910 2 points 86 days ago +2 / -0

I'd say this is more of a reflection of issues with Steam's rating/review system. Which is something that I think could use some improvement (purely positive or negative ratings are an oversimplified metric imo). And the Steam store's search filters could use some improvements too.

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– current_horror 11 points 86 days ago +11 / -0

So is the central thesis of the video that reviews are unreliable and easily manipulated? No shit.

Or maybe that alphabet people will endeavor to astroturf their own degenerate or mediocre garbage into the mainstream? That's what "overwhelmingly positive on 500 total reviews" means.

Or that the low bar of entry for indie game dev has generated oceans of unfinished, unpolished, derivative slop? What else even could happen?

It's a contrarian clickbait video that says nothing of value. The main takeaway is that dude has retarded friends.

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– ChippingToe 6 points 86 days ago +6 / -0

So is the central thesis of the video that reviews are unreliable and easily manipulated?

Wrong again. The takeaway is that indie games have a huge dick-riding problem that is unique to them. With triple-A games it's the journalists who focus on meaningless things like dev team diversity and LGBetc characters when writing reviews...with indie games it's the players themselves.

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– AllDueRespect 5 points 86 days ago +5 / -0

I have no idea why you're getting bagged, you're completely right.

Steam aids and abets this too. They make it incredibly easy to be positive and nice (and globohomo) but if you're critical or normal or anti-degenerate, you're battling uphill.

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– current_horror 4 points 86 days ago +4 / -0

Plenty of people dickride AAA as well. The Marathon situation is downright comical. There's just no money or clout in publicly shitting on bad indie games with no sales, so you won't find a hundred hot take youtube videos attacking indie failure number ten thousand and seven. You're mistaking apathy/invisibility for a free pass.

Edit: And if your look into it, indie games absolutely get promoted by certain communities based on LGBTQ bullshit. The video even acknowledged this. That's what furry devs are.

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