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The “imminent threat” from Iran was them retaliating to Israel attacking them (twitter.com)
posted 113 days ago by Ahaus667 113 days ago by Ahaus667 +76 / -0
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– Bouldabassed 37 points 113 days ago +37 / -0

This is literally him saying the quiet part out loud. Honestly I'm shocked at the transparency. Essentially, right from the horse's mouth, we attacked because Israel was going to attack them without us, so we felt we had to attack first to blunt the effectiveness of the immediate aftermath.

The question that everyone should be shouting in unison demanding an answer is why? Why can we not just tell them "that's a retarded idea, go ahead without us but we won't participate." I understand that we have many difficult-to-defend bases in the region, but that is an issue in and of itself anyway.

Edit: Obviously Israel has been becoming more and more caustic politically among younger generations. Their unpopularity will only increase as boomers decrease in numbers. Trying to look on the bright side, if the American government wants to even pretend to maintain the facade of giving a shit about the will of the people, this could be it for them. So long as right and left leaning populists can join hands on this one issue.

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– What_password 26 points 113 days ago +26 / -0

There is a silver lining. If my boomer evangelical mom can start getting pissed and having her eyes opened, others will as well. The news Marco dropped today helped push her over big time.

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– Bouldabassed 18 points 113 days ago +18 / -0

That's encouraging. I haven't been able to get a read on the more pro Israel people in my family yet.

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– fvckface 19 points 113 days ago +19 / -0

I started using screenshots of articles with death toll numbers on my phone over a year ago to sort of red pill friends/family whenever the topic came up. Resistance was low, most felt ashamed (probably) because they didn't actually know the death toll numbers.

This year I rarely even go to my phone. A lot of people are already at "Fuck israel" whenever the topic comes up.

Israel is doing more to damage to its self than anyone else ever could. It's pretty wild.

This is from a comment I posted a while back over here: Even among evangelicals, there is no longer support for Israel

And in another one, that I won't link to here, I explained my methods further:

I save stuff on my phone in a specific folder and just casually insert "check this out" into conversation.

Room full of people: "Aunt Margaret, check this out, it's Gaza in 2020... and this one is Gaza in 2025... Completely gone, like some kind of holocaust or something..."

"Actually israel shot missiles first, unprovoked" (show screenshot of news headline)

"eleven hundred people died on October 7th." (show screenshot) "Here is a screenshot of the death toll of the israeli attacks on Gaza and Palestine..." (at least 50,000 dead in Gaza) "and the 17,000 children israel murdered" (estimates suggest 17,000 dead are minors)

"I read the death toll in Syria from israeli missile strikes and bombings is estimated over 10,000 people now..." (show screenshot of Syria death toll estimates) "...and Syria's population is 10% Christian..." (show screenshot... which is actually from before the 2011 war) "...so that means israel pretty much just bombed at least a thousand Christians... That's not ok with me, that will never be ok with me."

Plus I have a clip video saved of a bunch of israeli tik tokers mocking palestinian war refugees, and another that's just aerial shots of the devastation of Gaza that I show right after. "Neighbors... most of those people witnessed the relentless destruction of Gaza outside their windows, from their balconies, for months. They heard the bombs and felt the buildings crumble. They saw thousands of refugees who lost what little they had walk out of Gaza like an exodus, and they chose to mock them on tik tok anyway."

Make no mistake, I do not support muslims or islam. But letting the suffering of the enemies of my enemy go to waste would be a terrible thing.

"All warfare is based on deception." — The Art of War, Sun Tzu

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– DefinitelyNotIGN 7 points 113 days ago +7 / -0

They don't need the approval of all of America, only a few dozen Americans in particular.

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– AgnosticTemplar 5 points 113 days ago +5 / -0

It's precisely because support will evaporate after the boomers die off that israel is acting so aggressive now. They have to grab as much territory as they can, because in 25 years they're not going to be able to get away with this shit. Young white liberals hate Israel because they believe jews to be 'white colonizers', young white conservatives aren't buying into the 'chosen people' myth like their grandparents have, and young browns are either apathetic or hostile to jews categorically.

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