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Very First Time (media.scored.co)
posted 122 days ago by diogenesofthearch 122 days ago by diogenesofthearch +53 / -0
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– GoldenInnosStatue 22 points 122 days ago +22 / -0

"playable state" is a very debatable

starfield released in a "playable state" and so did many other Bugthesda titles

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– diogenesofthearch [S] 22 points 122 days ago +22 / -0

The differing definitions of "playable state" is the punchline of the joke.

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– horstshort 12 points 122 days ago +12 / -0

Most Bethesda games are overrated. Don't change my mind because you can't.

I did enjoy Oblivion and Skyrim but they don't deserve the praise they've gotten over the years. Especially Skyrim.

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– Smith1980 5 points 122 days ago +5 / -0

I still play modded Skyrim. Mods really keep that game going

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– Vicious_snek6 5 points 122 days ago +5 / -0

no you're right. They're terrible games and I've been saying they are overrated for ages. Decent enough world and ost, but the mechanics/controls and balancing are just completely awful. And with good mod support. Which is what saves it and why them making an online-only thing was retarded.

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– ApathySK 3 points 122 days ago +3 / -0

I started with Morrowind and outside of Skyrim, their games got progressively worse every iteration. Given what they've been putting out over the last couple of years, I'm not holding my breath for this.

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– LinnocenceDeLame 3 points 121 days ago +3 / -0

Oblivion was great (at the time it came out, it was revolutionary). Skyrim was a 7/10 game, it got stale and boring fast, but a few quests (dark brotherhood, monks) were awesome, plus mods saved it and turned it into a 9/10 imo.

The combat still sucks

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– horstshort 2 points 121 days ago +2 / -0

(at the time it came out, it was revolutionary)

No, it really wasn't. It was a dumbed down Morrowind with slightly better combat. The graphics were pretty nice on PC, yes, but that's it.

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– SturmMilfEnthusiast 3 points 121 days ago +3 / -0

Tech-wise Gamebryo was revolutionary and its successor is still unmatched in its particular niche. It's not the graphics or the mechanics or the writing, it's the engine. No matter how much shit Bethesda gets, there's a reason you haven't seen a Skyrim But Better by now, and it's because we're still barely getting Oblivion But Worse.

When people were trying to create a randomizer to the original version of Dark Souls 2, they found it almost impossible because you literally could not place certain NPCs or enemies in certain areas because everything in an area came packaged together. You might need an AI package from one asset list, but you have to load the whole asset list, and there's no memory for that. Or if there is, one entity might have code attached to it that conflicts with another and you've just caused the renderer to bomb out. Lots of games are like this, even now, and the ones that aren't will cook hardware 5x more powerful than the 360 was for half the complexity.

Meanwhile in any Gamebyro or Creation game, you can drop anything in the game, anywhere in the game. You can give it one line of script that tells it to cross the entire world and it'll do it, even if it has to pass through ten separate loading zones and three worldspaces to do it, and you can personally intercept it anywhere along the way. And you might know of a game you think did something like that once or twice, but I guarantee you nine times out of ten, it was a trick, not something the engine can just do.

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– LinnocenceDeLame 2 points 121 days ago +2 / -0

Well i remember it blew my mind back then. Maybe the first time I felt happy in a LONG LONG time (since goldeneye id say)

I still remember the quest with the orc girl that goes to get revenge and how I helped her get revenge. Then I realized I could have sided with the bandits instead and killed herself and I was stunned. I hadn't seen that in a game before.

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– Smith1980 6 points 122 days ago +6 / -0

Why did they bother with that teaser back in 18

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– HallucinatoryBeing 11 points 122 days ago +11 / -0

To sweeten ZeniMax's buyout to Microsoft. That ad was for the shareholders, not you.

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– Smith1980 3 points 122 days ago +3 / -0

Makes sense

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– mharmless 3 points 121 days ago +3 / -0

I hadn't made that connection, thanks.

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– TCDforver 1 point 121 days ago +1 / -0

To get attention away from the failure of 76

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– Smith1980 1 point 121 days ago +1 / -0

Forgot about how bad that release was

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– nuggetpatrol 3 points 121 days ago +3 / -0

I remain skeptical and unconvinced. Big Rigs: Over the Road Racing was playable.

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– FrensInLowPlaces 3 points 122 days ago +3 / -0

Playable after modders are given access for a day

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– JesusTheFirst 1 point 122 days ago +1 / -0

Note to mods. Don't believe.

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