I thought we completely and utterly destroyed their nuclear program in our bigly successfully and unprecedentedly awesome and stunning and brave and cool bombing run...I'm so confused!
To be clear, the Iranian program was never completely made totally out of operation. That would require far more than a few strikes. All that the first raid did was, at best, set them back 5 years. What Trump is demanding now is basically the complete end to their entire nuclear development strategy, in addition to reductions on their ballistic missile capabilities. Meaning zero enrichment. That's not typically an item on the table, even for his own previous administration.
To be honest, it would be best for the Iranians to accept the demand. Assad ended his Chemical Weapons program after that... highly debatable... incident with poison gas. He basically abandoned the program, and then had the Russians guarantee the removal of his stockpiles. Frankly the program never helped him in the Syrian Civil War anyways. The Iranians are better off ending their enrichment and just buying nukes from Pakistan (assuming China and Russia will allow it, which is a hard 'maybe').
And by the way Kienan, unlike what I said last time: yes, this time the armada are in position now, including a vast array of missile interceptors. Suggesting not only an attack, but a heavy Iranian counter-attack as well.
Assad complied, and it did nothing to halt the gayops against him. He's fortunate to be alive right now rather than getting Gaddafi'd. There's really no point in co-operating with the US on any of this. For all the talk about the Iranians being fanatical psychos, they're actually restrained and naive to an almost buffoonish degree.
The point wasn't for him to stop being overthrown (that was a goal since at least the mid 90's). The point was that it no longer justified American or Israeli air strikes on his territory. It bought time, and allowed for fixed-wing air support to stop. Hell, he damn well almost won the war for a minute there.
You're assessment of Iran is just wrong, as they've been engaged in an international irregular warfare campaign to spread the "Islamic Revolution" across the entire region. They're not complete fanatical psychos, but they're also not naive (I wouldn't be surprised if this justifies what amounts to a military coup where the ayatollah is 'tragically killed by the American pig-dog bombing campaign').
Normally, I'd agree, but when it comes to Leftism and Islam, internal violence is so perpetually common that it's really a sorting algorithm. The loser of the conflict gains absolute supremacy. No one will dissent from them, no one will try to revolt against the power structure, and any of the old loyalists will turncoat, die, or flee. It sounds like then this is a good state to keep the Islamic world in. But that's not really my point. My point is that someone will win. The internal violence is just a sorting mechanism. This is, in fact, one of the longest periods of time where the Islamic world. If we were smart, we'd expel all Muslims from all of our countries and point nukes at every Muslim country because one day, they will launch a pre-emptive strike. It's one of the reasons it's good not to have Iran with nukes, they're more likely to use them than the Soviet Union or China were, and the Soviets tried to launch.
You remember Iran's nuclear program, the one that was supposedly destroyed in the one off bombing. Oh wait, the people who said that were lying. Shocking.
The nuclear program that uses the slowest, least efficient means of enriching uranium to bomb quality, instead of the cheap, efficient, quick method that the Chinese, South Africans, North Koreans and French uses? That nuclear program?
I thought we completely and utterly destroyed their nuclear program in our bigly successfully and unprecedentedly awesome and stunning and brave and cool bombing run...I'm so confused!
See now that is how South Park should’ve done Trump
I wouldn't be surprised if the South Park duo secretly supports his foreign policy.
To be clear, the Iranian program was never completely made totally out of operation. That would require far more than a few strikes. All that the first raid did was, at best, set them back 5 years. What Trump is demanding now is basically the complete end to their entire nuclear development strategy, in addition to reductions on their ballistic missile capabilities. Meaning zero enrichment. That's not typically an item on the table, even for his own previous administration.
To be honest, it would be best for the Iranians to accept the demand. Assad ended his Chemical Weapons program after that... highly debatable... incident with poison gas. He basically abandoned the program, and then had the Russians guarantee the removal of his stockpiles. Frankly the program never helped him in the Syrian Civil War anyways. The Iranians are better off ending their enrichment and just buying nukes from Pakistan (assuming China and Russia will allow it, which is a hard 'maybe').
And by the way Kienan, unlike what I said last time: yes, this time the armada are in position now, including a vast array of missile interceptors. Suggesting not only an attack, but a heavy Iranian counter-attack as well.
Assad complied, and it did nothing to halt the gayops against him. He's fortunate to be alive right now rather than getting Gaddafi'd. There's really no point in co-operating with the US on any of this. For all the talk about the Iranians being fanatical psychos, they're actually restrained and naive to an almost buffoonish degree.
The point wasn't for him to stop being overthrown (that was a goal since at least the mid 90's). The point was that it no longer justified American or Israeli air strikes on his territory. It bought time, and allowed for fixed-wing air support to stop. Hell, he damn well almost won the war for a minute there.
You're assessment of Iran is just wrong, as they've been engaged in an international irregular warfare campaign to spread the "Islamic Revolution" across the entire region. They're not complete fanatical psychos, but they're also not naive (I wouldn't be surprised if this justifies what amounts to a military coup where the ayatollah is 'tragically killed by the American pig-dog bombing campaign').
The region is already Islamic.
Yes but it's the wrong Islamic.
This is a pretty common thread in the history of all Islamic civil wars.
What do you mean? Iran is Shia and backs Hamas who is Sunni.
/u/Gizortnik trying to architect your opinions but is vastly under-qualified to do so.
All the better, infighting amongst our enemies is desired.
Normally, I'd agree, but when it comes to Leftism and Islam, internal violence is so perpetually common that it's really a sorting algorithm. The loser of the conflict gains absolute supremacy. No one will dissent from them, no one will try to revolt against the power structure, and any of the old loyalists will turncoat, die, or flee. It sounds like then this is a good state to keep the Islamic world in. But that's not really my point. My point is that someone will win. The internal violence is just a sorting mechanism. This is, in fact, one of the longest periods of time where the Islamic world. If we were smart, we'd expel all Muslims from all of our countries and point nukes at every Muslim country because one day, they will launch a pre-emptive strike. It's one of the reasons it's good not to have Iran with nukes, they're more likely to use them than the Soviet Union or China were, and the Soviets tried to launch.
You remember Iran's nuclear program, the one that was supposedly destroyed in the one off bombing. Oh wait, the people who said that were lying. Shocking.
The program that has literally never existed, despite Israel saying it has for the last 50 years? Yeah, I remember that program.
Just vote harder next time and maybe there won’t be yet another war for Israel!
Sure, he can blow up the iranian nuclear program.
... its in Tel Aviv. Source: bro trust me. ;D
The nuclear program he claimed we obliterated
The nuclear program that uses the slowest, least efficient means of enriching uranium to bomb quality, instead of the cheap, efficient, quick method that the Chinese, South Africans, North Koreans and French uses? That nuclear program?
I am re-watching Homeland, the topics feel extremely recent