This is why I don't care about dabbing all over the stupid lesbian getting herself shot
Just to be clear, I interpreted "don't care" as not trying to scold people for gloating over her self-inflicted misery, rather engaging in it directly.
I'm not going to pretend the sad part was the necessary shooting rather than the brainwashing before hand, and I'm not going to intervene with people who say anything out of pocket.
If social decency is not going to be extended fairly in it's totality then I'm not gonna waste energy to protect someone who did everything possible to take it away from others until it is.
I'm also not going to pretend that someone who goes out and premeditated blocks ICE vehicles with secret whistle signals and doesn't care about crushing them with her car has any plausible deniability that she didn't cheer for something like Charlie Kirk's murder. You have to be deep in that culture to reach that point
You talk about retaliation for real or imagined offenses. But do you think this does the right any good?
Leaving aside the morality. Imp spent a month saying that "Nazis" should be killed. Let's be generous and assume he means actual Nazis. You could say "Nazis want worse for others, and therefore this is not wrong". But they're still human beings. What do you think it does to the people who say something like that? What do you think it normalizes?
You don't need to scold anyone. Nor will I, it's pretty pointless.
I'll say it: Yes, I think this does (not "the right") but Good people, Good. We have to stop apologizing for Good outcomes and the elimination of Bad people and prevention of Bad outcomes. People should be perfectly free to celebrate the advancement of good, and the thwarting of evil.
I'm sick to death of your "polite lie" way of preserving decorum by making everything so fucking grim all of the time. You know where this is all going, I know where this is all going. If we're brave enough to learn to be honest again, quick enough, and make the ascendance of Good a fun process that people want to join, rather than this hand-wringing pathetic sadness thing that you want to make of it, then there's less likelihood that my sons have to die, face-down in a ditch, to get civilization and society patched together again.
This lady would've slit my throat without a moment's hesitation. If I were on her radar, she'd take and trans my kids. She'd do all this with what passes for joy in her wine-and-anti-depressant-ridden what-passes-for-a-heart.
She was a monster doing monster shit, and she died doing monster shit that hurt me and mine. The process of what got her there is sad. The resolution of that cosmic error is a cause for celebration.
It's not a "good outcome" when it makes no difference in the grand scheme of things. In fact, it probably does damage to ICE and the deportation effort, as pathetic as it is.
and make the ascendance of Good a fun process that people want to join
See, a side that celebrates people being shot in the head is not a "fun process that people want to join", but rather something that repels people. Maybe psychopaths and prisoners would like that.
This lady would've slit my throat without a moment's hesitation.
That's what they say about us...
The resolution of that cosmic error is a cause for celebration.
Lord, I hate post salad. This chippy-choppy thing is a thing people do to antagonize when they feel like they're getting the short end of a disagreement.
I can't remember this forum's architecture for quoting, so you get what you get.
"It's not a "good outcome" when it makes no difference in the grand scheme of things. In fact, it probably does damage to ICE and the deportation effort, as pathetic as it is."
It is a good outcome, because "the grand scheme of things" such as it is, is comprised of smaller moments and smaller actions just like this, and this one came out well. A mind-broken psychotic freak is no longer out there doing harm, and her stupid death serves as a warning to others. This does zero "damage to ICE," and you've not taken even baby steps to support that bold claim.
"See, a side that celebrates people being shot in the head is not a "fun process that people want to join", but rather something that repels people. Maybe psychopaths and prisoners would like that."
You sound like a faggot, or European (but I repeat myself). People who aren't faggots don't mind when enemy soldiers drop on the field, and that's exactly what this was. You are repelled either because you have no chest, or because you want to give some skin-in-the-game-less impression of completely misplaced empathy. This isn't about political sides, it's literally a matter of good and evil. You want to wail and bemoan the optics of devils taken off the battlefield, there's a place for it: It's called Purgatorio. Have fun chasing that flag, forever.
"That's what they say about us..."
Yeah, but they're wrong, and if you need 1,001 examples of why and how, then you're simply an indefatigable internet-arguer. Not only do they say this about good people, they act accordingly. Pretending to care about them earns you exactly zero goodboi points when they come at you. I'll not sit by and watch my kids raped and transed because some forum denizen gets the vapors when bad blood is spilled.
"What good has it done?"
A devil has been taken off the field. Her fellow devils, roaches all, are in disarray. A million Karens have cried out in fear and anger, and are now more likely to not stick their stupid faces out their car windows while obstructing necessary law enforcement. Millions have born witness, nodded sagely, and recognized, rightly, that this is how it should be. The good it has done is immediately obvious. FAFO is once again in play. This will save lives, good lives, and maybe even some who've gone bad but yet have time to change their course. Or not, and they'll FO too, and that will also be good.
Just to be clear, I interpreted "don't care" as not trying to scold people for gloating over her self-inflicted misery, rather engaging in it directly.
I'm not going to pretend the sad part was the necessary shooting rather than the brainwashing before hand, and I'm not going to intervene with people who say anything out of pocket.
If social decency is not going to be extended fairly in it's totality then I'm not gonna waste energy to protect someone who did everything possible to take it away from others until it is.
I'm also not going to pretend that someone who goes out and premeditated blocks ICE vehicles with secret whistle signals and doesn't care about crushing them with her car has any plausible deniability that she didn't cheer for something like Charlie Kirk's murder. You have to be deep in that culture to reach that point
You talk about retaliation for real or imagined offenses. But do you think this does the right any good?
Leaving aside the morality. Imp spent a month saying that "Nazis" should be killed. Let's be generous and assume he means actual Nazis. You could say "Nazis want worse for others, and therefore this is not wrong". But they're still human beings. What do you think it does to the people who say something like that? What do you think it normalizes?
You don't need to scold anyone. Nor will I, it's pretty pointless.
I'll say it: Yes, I think this does (not "the right") but Good people, Good. We have to stop apologizing for Good outcomes and the elimination of Bad people and prevention of Bad outcomes. People should be perfectly free to celebrate the advancement of good, and the thwarting of evil.
I'm sick to death of your "polite lie" way of preserving decorum by making everything so fucking grim all of the time. You know where this is all going, I know where this is all going. If we're brave enough to learn to be honest again, quick enough, and make the ascendance of Good a fun process that people want to join, rather than this hand-wringing pathetic sadness thing that you want to make of it, then there's less likelihood that my sons have to die, face-down in a ditch, to get civilization and society patched together again.
This lady would've slit my throat without a moment's hesitation. If I were on her radar, she'd take and trans my kids. She'd do all this with what passes for joy in her wine-and-anti-depressant-ridden what-passes-for-a-heart.
She was a monster doing monster shit, and she died doing monster shit that hurt me and mine. The process of what got her there is sad. The resolution of that cosmic error is a cause for celebration.
It's not a "good outcome" when it makes no difference in the grand scheme of things. In fact, it probably does damage to ICE and the deportation effort, as pathetic as it is.
See, a side that celebrates people being shot in the head is not a "fun process that people want to join", but rather something that repels people. Maybe psychopaths and prisoners would like that.
That's what they say about us...
What good has it done?
Lord, I hate post salad. This chippy-choppy thing is a thing people do to antagonize when they feel like they're getting the short end of a disagreement.
I can't remember this forum's architecture for quoting, so you get what you get.
"It's not a "good outcome" when it makes no difference in the grand scheme of things. In fact, it probably does damage to ICE and the deportation effort, as pathetic as it is."
It is a good outcome, because "the grand scheme of things" such as it is, is comprised of smaller moments and smaller actions just like this, and this one came out well. A mind-broken psychotic freak is no longer out there doing harm, and her stupid death serves as a warning to others. This does zero "damage to ICE," and you've not taken even baby steps to support that bold claim.
"See, a side that celebrates people being shot in the head is not a "fun process that people want to join", but rather something that repels people. Maybe psychopaths and prisoners would like that."
You sound like a faggot, or European (but I repeat myself). People who aren't faggots don't mind when enemy soldiers drop on the field, and that's exactly what this was. You are repelled either because you have no chest, or because you want to give some skin-in-the-game-less impression of completely misplaced empathy. This isn't about political sides, it's literally a matter of good and evil. You want to wail and bemoan the optics of devils taken off the battlefield, there's a place for it: It's called Purgatorio. Have fun chasing that flag, forever.
"That's what they say about us..."
Yeah, but they're wrong, and if you need 1,001 examples of why and how, then you're simply an indefatigable internet-arguer. Not only do they say this about good people, they act accordingly. Pretending to care about them earns you exactly zero goodboi points when they come at you. I'll not sit by and watch my kids raped and transed because some forum denizen gets the vapors when bad blood is spilled.
"What good has it done?"
A devil has been taken off the field. Her fellow devils, roaches all, are in disarray. A million Karens have cried out in fear and anger, and are now more likely to not stick their stupid faces out their car windows while obstructing necessary law enforcement. Millions have born witness, nodded sagely, and recognized, rightly, that this is how it should be. The good it has done is immediately obvious. FAFO is once again in play. This will save lives, good lives, and maybe even some who've gone bad but yet have time to change their course. Or not, and they'll FO too, and that will also be good.