It's not a "good outcome" when it makes no difference in the grand scheme of things. In fact, it probably does damage to ICE and the deportation effort, as pathetic as it is.
and make the ascendance of Good a fun process that people want to join
See, a side that celebrates people being shot in the head is not a "fun process that people want to join", but rather something that repels people. Maybe psychopaths and prisoners would like that.
This lady would've slit my throat without a moment's hesitation.
That's what they say about us...
The resolution of that cosmic error is a cause for celebration.
Lord, I hate post salad. This chippy-choppy thing is a thing people do to antagonize when they feel like they're getting the short end of a disagreement.
I can't remember this forum's architecture for quoting, so you get what you get.
"It's not a "good outcome" when it makes no difference in the grand scheme of things. In fact, it probably does damage to ICE and the deportation effort, as pathetic as it is."
It is a good outcome, because "the grand scheme of things" such as it is, is comprised of smaller moments and smaller actions just like this, and this one came out well. A mind-broken psychotic freak is no longer out there doing harm, and her stupid death serves as a warning to others. This does zero "damage to ICE," and you've not taken even baby steps to support that bold claim.
"See, a side that celebrates people being shot in the head is not a "fun process that people want to join", but rather something that repels people. Maybe psychopaths and prisoners would like that."
You sound like a faggot, or European (but I repeat myself). People who aren't faggots don't mind when enemy soldiers drop on the field, and that's exactly what this was. You are repelled either because you have no chest, or because you want to give some skin-in-the-game-less impression of completely misplaced empathy. This isn't about political sides, it's literally a matter of good and evil. You want to wail and bemoan the optics of devils taken off the battlefield, there's a place for it: It's called Purgatorio. Have fun chasing that flag, forever.
"That's what they say about us..."
Yeah, but they're wrong, and if you need 1,001 examples of why and how, then you're simply an indefatigable internet-arguer. Not only do they say this about good people, they act accordingly. Pretending to care about them earns you exactly zero goodboi points when they come at you. I'll not sit by and watch my kids raped and transed because some forum denizen gets the vapors when bad blood is spilled.
"What good has it done?"
A devil has been taken off the field. Her fellow devils, roaches all, are in disarray. A million Karens have cried out in fear and anger, and are now more likely to not stick their stupid faces out their car windows while obstructing necessary law enforcement. Millions have born witness, nodded sagely, and recognized, rightly, that this is how it should be. The good it has done is immediately obvious. FAFO is once again in play. This will save lives, good lives, and maybe even some who've gone bad but yet have time to change their course. Or not, and they'll FO too, and that will also be good.
This chippy-choppy thing is a thing people do to antagonize
Not for me. I don't try to antagonize, it's just that I'm a natural at it.
It is a good outcome, because "the grand scheme of things" such as it is, is comprised of smaller moments and smaller actions just like this, and this one came out well. A mind-broken psychotic freak is no longer out there doing harm, and her stupid death serves as a warning to others. This does zero "damage to ICE," and you've not taken even baby steps to support that bold claim.
I mean, I thought it was obvious. This has done tremendous PR damage to ICE. Most people think this shooting was not justified. Many more people than before will now resist ICE raids, and numbers of abolishing ICE (a lunatic fringe position previously) have now become mainstream.
And no, this doesn't do any good. Even if I grant you that this is a 'mind-broken psychotic freak', it's one out of how many? It's not making any difference. It's political homeopathy.
People who aren't faggots don't mind when enemy soldiers drop on the field
People who are Christians do. Also, to point out the obvious, this wasn't an "enemy soldier".
You are repelled either because you have no chest
In general, it's fat chickenhawks who cheer slaughter, mayhem and murder.
It's called Purgatorio.
The guy who wrote the Purgatorio believed in a religion that had 'homicide in public war' as a cause for penance, because you're taking a life that was made in the image of God. You believe in Nietzsche and national socialism. You are not the same.
Pretending to care about them earns you exactly zero goodboi points
I'm not doing it for "goodboi points", obviously. I'm doing it because I do have morals, and because this is self-defeating. You don't know because you're a nitwit loudmouth who mistakes bluster for strength.
A million Karens have cried out in fear and anger, and are now more likely to not stick their stupid faces out their car windows while obstructing necessary law enforcement
What are you talking about? A million Karens are galvanized to go after ICE at every moment they can. There's literally an uprising against ICE. Is that a good thing, just because you can feel good about pointless cruelty?
Good lord but you're acting like the very worst of faux-compassionate, faux-empathetic, hysterical fruits. It's funny that you referred earlier to whether this was good "for us--" I don't recognize any "we" that includes both you and I, because we very clearly have nowhere near the same wants or goals.
This dumb bitch was literally a professional ICE-harasser. She moved to this hotspot specifically for the purpose of doing this, and she had no other job. She was a part of a pseudo-militia built for this exact purpose, and it's likely she was being paid--certainly funded, at least, for this activity.
She was in the process of carrying out this horrible duty when she rightfully got merked. This is what she was for. She was being backed to do exactly this.
You cry, literally cry "pointless cruelty," and I say absolutely nothing here was even close to "cruelty." It is frankly bizarre and not a little bit stupid to try and paint it this way.
I don't think you're stupid. You don't speak like somebody who is stupid. So what's your agenda here, seriously? I don't believe for a fraction of a second that you actually think there's some moral conundrum or "cruelty" or any other emotionally-laden woman-speak you're applying here, so what is it really you're after?
It reeks of reflexive anti-American-authority. If it was anti-authori-tarian-ism, we could have something to talk about. But I don't think it's that at all. This is so extreme and stupid a position you're taking, that the most parsimonious explanation is that you're just sincerely anti-American, even when we're just finally trying to clean up a goddamn domestic mess that's been long overdue for correction.
My position is to stop America from collapsing in on itself. Yours is clearly not that, so with all due respect, you can frankly fuck off with this "we" and "us" bullshit. If you stand in the way of this meagrest correction, you're an antagonist. Cry morals and cruelty all you want, pilpul enemy. I don't believe you, I don't respect you, I am not moved by your pleas and attempts to shame.
Good lord but you're acting like the very worst of faux-compassionate, faux-empathetic, hysterical fruits.
I'm practical. You prefer satisfying your - deranged - emotions over what has practical use. It feels good, to you, to see a leftist get shot and die, so you support it, regardless of it being immoral and counterproductive.
I don't recognize any "we" that includes both you and I,
Who are you again, handshake? Other than someone who doesn't know that 'to include' doesn't go with the nominative?
You cry, literally cry "pointless cruelty," and I say absolutely nothing here was even close to "cruelty.
You're cheering someone's death. You've failed to in any way specify how this makes anything better, whereas I have pointed out to you how this makes things worse.
So what's your agenda here, seriously?
Here? That's a pretty handshakey thing to say.
It reeks of reflexive anti-American-authority.
Ah, sorry, didn't know that I have to only criticize Murican authoratah when someone who is not to your liking is your authority, like you guys criticize drone strikes when Obama is president and then ignore them when it's Trump.
This is so extreme and stupid a position you're taking,
That said, it's laughable how you think that "shooting leftists is bad" is an "extreme" position.
that the most parsimonious explanation is that you're just sincerely anti-American
Yup. Now what?
My position is to stop America from collapsing in on itself.
And you do that by making leftists think that conservatives want them dead? That is a recipe for civil war and collapse, dummy.
I am not moved by your pleas and attempts to shame.
It's not a "good outcome" when it makes no difference in the grand scheme of things. In fact, it probably does damage to ICE and the deportation effort, as pathetic as it is.
See, a side that celebrates people being shot in the head is not a "fun process that people want to join", but rather something that repels people. Maybe psychopaths and prisoners would like that.
That's what they say about us...
What good has it done?
Lord, I hate post salad. This chippy-choppy thing is a thing people do to antagonize when they feel like they're getting the short end of a disagreement.
I can't remember this forum's architecture for quoting, so you get what you get.
"It's not a "good outcome" when it makes no difference in the grand scheme of things. In fact, it probably does damage to ICE and the deportation effort, as pathetic as it is."
It is a good outcome, because "the grand scheme of things" such as it is, is comprised of smaller moments and smaller actions just like this, and this one came out well. A mind-broken psychotic freak is no longer out there doing harm, and her stupid death serves as a warning to others. This does zero "damage to ICE," and you've not taken even baby steps to support that bold claim.
"See, a side that celebrates people being shot in the head is not a "fun process that people want to join", but rather something that repels people. Maybe psychopaths and prisoners would like that."
You sound like a faggot, or European (but I repeat myself). People who aren't faggots don't mind when enemy soldiers drop on the field, and that's exactly what this was. You are repelled either because you have no chest, or because you want to give some skin-in-the-game-less impression of completely misplaced empathy. This isn't about political sides, it's literally a matter of good and evil. You want to wail and bemoan the optics of devils taken off the battlefield, there's a place for it: It's called Purgatorio. Have fun chasing that flag, forever.
"That's what they say about us..."
Yeah, but they're wrong, and if you need 1,001 examples of why and how, then you're simply an indefatigable internet-arguer. Not only do they say this about good people, they act accordingly. Pretending to care about them earns you exactly zero goodboi points when they come at you. I'll not sit by and watch my kids raped and transed because some forum denizen gets the vapors when bad blood is spilled.
"What good has it done?"
A devil has been taken off the field. Her fellow devils, roaches all, are in disarray. A million Karens have cried out in fear and anger, and are now more likely to not stick their stupid faces out their car windows while obstructing necessary law enforcement. Millions have born witness, nodded sagely, and recognized, rightly, that this is how it should be. The good it has done is immediately obvious. FAFO is once again in play. This will save lives, good lives, and maybe even some who've gone bad but yet have time to change their course. Or not, and they'll FO too, and that will also be good.
Not for me. I don't try to antagonize, it's just that I'm a natural at it.
I mean, I thought it was obvious. This has done tremendous PR damage to ICE. Most people think this shooting was not justified. Many more people than before will now resist ICE raids, and numbers of abolishing ICE (a lunatic fringe position previously) have now become mainstream.
And no, this doesn't do any good. Even if I grant you that this is a 'mind-broken psychotic freak', it's one out of how many? It's not making any difference. It's political homeopathy.
People who are Christians do. Also, to point out the obvious, this wasn't an "enemy soldier".
In general, it's fat chickenhawks who cheer slaughter, mayhem and murder.
The guy who wrote the Purgatorio believed in a religion that had 'homicide in public war' as a cause for penance, because you're taking a life that was made in the image of God. You believe in Nietzsche and national socialism. You are not the same.
I'm not doing it for "goodboi points", obviously. I'm doing it because I do have morals, and because this is self-defeating. You don't know because you're a nitwit loudmouth who mistakes bluster for strength.
What are you talking about? A million Karens are galvanized to go after ICE at every moment they can. There's literally an uprising against ICE. Is that a good thing, just because you can feel good about pointless cruelty?
Good lord but you're acting like the very worst of faux-compassionate, faux-empathetic, hysterical fruits. It's funny that you referred earlier to whether this was good "for us--" I don't recognize any "we" that includes both you and I, because we very clearly have nowhere near the same wants or goals.
This dumb bitch was literally a professional ICE-harasser. She moved to this hotspot specifically for the purpose of doing this, and she had no other job. She was a part of a pseudo-militia built for this exact purpose, and it's likely she was being paid--certainly funded, at least, for this activity.
She was in the process of carrying out this horrible duty when she rightfully got merked. This is what she was for. She was being backed to do exactly this.
You cry, literally cry "pointless cruelty," and I say absolutely nothing here was even close to "cruelty." It is frankly bizarre and not a little bit stupid to try and paint it this way.
I don't think you're stupid. You don't speak like somebody who is stupid. So what's your agenda here, seriously? I don't believe for a fraction of a second that you actually think there's some moral conundrum or "cruelty" or any other emotionally-laden woman-speak you're applying here, so what is it really you're after?
It reeks of reflexive anti-American-authority. If it was anti-authori-tarian-ism, we could have something to talk about. But I don't think it's that at all. This is so extreme and stupid a position you're taking, that the most parsimonious explanation is that you're just sincerely anti-American, even when we're just finally trying to clean up a goddamn domestic mess that's been long overdue for correction.
My position is to stop America from collapsing in on itself. Yours is clearly not that, so with all due respect, you can frankly fuck off with this "we" and "us" bullshit. If you stand in the way of this meagrest correction, you're an antagonist. Cry morals and cruelty all you want, pilpul enemy. I don't believe you, I don't respect you, I am not moved by your pleas and attempts to shame.
I'm practical. You prefer satisfying your - deranged - emotions over what has practical use. It feels good, to you, to see a leftist get shot and die, so you support it, regardless of it being immoral and counterproductive.
Who are you again, handshake? Other than someone who doesn't know that 'to include' doesn't go with the nominative?
You're cheering someone's death. You've failed to in any way specify how this makes anything better, whereas I have pointed out to you how this makes things worse.
Here? That's a pretty handshakey thing to say.
Ah, sorry, didn't know that I have to only criticize Murican authoratah when someone who is not to your liking is your authority, like you guys criticize drone strikes when Obama is president and then ignore them when it's Trump.
That said, it's laughable how you think that "shooting leftists is bad" is an "extreme" position.
Yup. Now what?
And you do that by making leftists think that conservatives want them dead? That is a recipe for civil war and collapse, dummy.
Please do keep your autism in check, sirrah.