You talk about retaliation for real or imagined offenses. But do you think this does the right any good?
Leaving aside the morality. Imp spent a month saying that "Nazis" should be killed. Let's be generous and assume he means actual Nazis. You could say "Nazis want worse for others, and therefore this is not wrong". But they're still human beings. What do you think it does to the people who say something like that? What do you think it normalizes?
You don't need to scold anyone. Nor will I, it's pretty pointless.
I'll say it: Yes, I think this does (not "the right") but Good people, Good. We have to stop apologizing for Good outcomes and the elimination of Bad people and prevention of Bad outcomes. People should be perfectly free to celebrate the advancement of good, and the thwarting of evil.
I'm sick to death of your "polite lie" way of preserving decorum by making everything so fucking grim all of the time. You know where this is all going, I know where this is all going. If we're brave enough to learn to be honest again, quick enough, and make the ascendance of Good a fun process that people want to join, rather than this hand-wringing pathetic sadness thing that you want to make of it, then there's less likelihood that my sons have to die, face-down in a ditch, to get civilization and society patched together again.
This lady would've slit my throat without a moment's hesitation. If I were on her radar, she'd take and trans my kids. She'd do all this with what passes for joy in her wine-and-anti-depressant-ridden what-passes-for-a-heart.
She was a monster doing monster shit, and she died doing monster shit that hurt me and mine. The process of what got her there is sad. The resolution of that cosmic error is a cause for celebration.
It's not a "good outcome" when it makes no difference in the grand scheme of things. In fact, it probably does damage to ICE and the deportation effort, as pathetic as it is.
and make the ascendance of Good a fun process that people want to join
See, a side that celebrates people being shot in the head is not a "fun process that people want to join", but rather something that repels people. Maybe psychopaths and prisoners would like that.
This lady would've slit my throat without a moment's hesitation.
That's what they say about us...
The resolution of that cosmic error is a cause for celebration.
Lord, I hate post salad. This chippy-choppy thing is a thing people do to antagonize when they feel like they're getting the short end of a disagreement.
I can't remember this forum's architecture for quoting, so you get what you get.
"It's not a "good outcome" when it makes no difference in the grand scheme of things. In fact, it probably does damage to ICE and the deportation effort, as pathetic as it is."
It is a good outcome, because "the grand scheme of things" such as it is, is comprised of smaller moments and smaller actions just like this, and this one came out well. A mind-broken psychotic freak is no longer out there doing harm, and her stupid death serves as a warning to others. This does zero "damage to ICE," and you've not taken even baby steps to support that bold claim.
"See, a side that celebrates people being shot in the head is not a "fun process that people want to join", but rather something that repels people. Maybe psychopaths and prisoners would like that."
You sound like a faggot, or European (but I repeat myself). People who aren't faggots don't mind when enemy soldiers drop on the field, and that's exactly what this was. You are repelled either because you have no chest, or because you want to give some skin-in-the-game-less impression of completely misplaced empathy. This isn't about political sides, it's literally a matter of good and evil. You want to wail and bemoan the optics of devils taken off the battlefield, there's a place for it: It's called Purgatorio. Have fun chasing that flag, forever.
"That's what they say about us..."
Yeah, but they're wrong, and if you need 1,001 examples of why and how, then you're simply an indefatigable internet-arguer. Not only do they say this about good people, they act accordingly. Pretending to care about them earns you exactly zero goodboi points when they come at you. I'll not sit by and watch my kids raped and transed because some forum denizen gets the vapors when bad blood is spilled.
"What good has it done?"
A devil has been taken off the field. Her fellow devils, roaches all, are in disarray. A million Karens have cried out in fear and anger, and are now more likely to not stick their stupid faces out their car windows while obstructing necessary law enforcement. Millions have born witness, nodded sagely, and recognized, rightly, that this is how it should be. The good it has done is immediately obvious. FAFO is once again in play. This will save lives, good lives, and maybe even some who've gone bad but yet have time to change their course. Or not, and they'll FO too, and that will also be good.
This chippy-choppy thing is a thing people do to antagonize
Not for me. I don't try to antagonize, it's just that I'm a natural at it.
It is a good outcome, because "the grand scheme of things" such as it is, is comprised of smaller moments and smaller actions just like this, and this one came out well. A mind-broken psychotic freak is no longer out there doing harm, and her stupid death serves as a warning to others. This does zero "damage to ICE," and you've not taken even baby steps to support that bold claim.
I mean, I thought it was obvious. This has done tremendous PR damage to ICE. Most people think this shooting was not justified. Many more people than before will now resist ICE raids, and numbers of abolishing ICE (a lunatic fringe position previously) have now become mainstream.
And no, this doesn't do any good. Even if I grant you that this is a 'mind-broken psychotic freak', it's one out of how many? It's not making any difference. It's political homeopathy.
People who aren't faggots don't mind when enemy soldiers drop on the field
People who are Christians do. Also, to point out the obvious, this wasn't an "enemy soldier".
You are repelled either because you have no chest
In general, it's fat chickenhawks who cheer slaughter, mayhem and murder.
It's called Purgatorio.
The guy who wrote the Purgatorio believed in a religion that had 'homicide in public war' as a cause for penance, because you're taking a life that was made in the image of God. You believe in Nietzsche and national socialism. You are not the same.
Pretending to care about them earns you exactly zero goodboi points
I'm not doing it for "goodboi points", obviously. I'm doing it because I do have morals, and because this is self-defeating. You don't know because you're a nitwit loudmouth who mistakes bluster for strength.
A million Karens have cried out in fear and anger, and are now more likely to not stick their stupid faces out their car windows while obstructing necessary law enforcement
What are you talking about? A million Karens are galvanized to go after ICE at every moment they can. There's literally an uprising against ICE. Is that a good thing, just because you can feel good about pointless cruelty?
You talk about retaliation for real or imagined offenses. But do you think this does the right any good?
Leaving aside the morality. Imp spent a month saying that "Nazis" should be killed. Let's be generous and assume he means actual Nazis. You could say "Nazis want worse for others, and therefore this is not wrong". But they're still human beings. What do you think it does to the people who say something like that? What do you think it normalizes?
You don't need to scold anyone. Nor will I, it's pretty pointless.
I'll say it: Yes, I think this does (not "the right") but Good people, Good. We have to stop apologizing for Good outcomes and the elimination of Bad people and prevention of Bad outcomes. People should be perfectly free to celebrate the advancement of good, and the thwarting of evil.
I'm sick to death of your "polite lie" way of preserving decorum by making everything so fucking grim all of the time. You know where this is all going, I know where this is all going. If we're brave enough to learn to be honest again, quick enough, and make the ascendance of Good a fun process that people want to join, rather than this hand-wringing pathetic sadness thing that you want to make of it, then there's less likelihood that my sons have to die, face-down in a ditch, to get civilization and society patched together again.
This lady would've slit my throat without a moment's hesitation. If I were on her radar, she'd take and trans my kids. She'd do all this with what passes for joy in her wine-and-anti-depressant-ridden what-passes-for-a-heart.
She was a monster doing monster shit, and she died doing monster shit that hurt me and mine. The process of what got her there is sad. The resolution of that cosmic error is a cause for celebration.
It's not a "good outcome" when it makes no difference in the grand scheme of things. In fact, it probably does damage to ICE and the deportation effort, as pathetic as it is.
See, a side that celebrates people being shot in the head is not a "fun process that people want to join", but rather something that repels people. Maybe psychopaths and prisoners would like that.
That's what they say about us...
What good has it done?
Lord, I hate post salad. This chippy-choppy thing is a thing people do to antagonize when they feel like they're getting the short end of a disagreement.
I can't remember this forum's architecture for quoting, so you get what you get.
"It's not a "good outcome" when it makes no difference in the grand scheme of things. In fact, it probably does damage to ICE and the deportation effort, as pathetic as it is."
It is a good outcome, because "the grand scheme of things" such as it is, is comprised of smaller moments and smaller actions just like this, and this one came out well. A mind-broken psychotic freak is no longer out there doing harm, and her stupid death serves as a warning to others. This does zero "damage to ICE," and you've not taken even baby steps to support that bold claim.
"See, a side that celebrates people being shot in the head is not a "fun process that people want to join", but rather something that repels people. Maybe psychopaths and prisoners would like that."
You sound like a faggot, or European (but I repeat myself). People who aren't faggots don't mind when enemy soldiers drop on the field, and that's exactly what this was. You are repelled either because you have no chest, or because you want to give some skin-in-the-game-less impression of completely misplaced empathy. This isn't about political sides, it's literally a matter of good and evil. You want to wail and bemoan the optics of devils taken off the battlefield, there's a place for it: It's called Purgatorio. Have fun chasing that flag, forever.
"That's what they say about us..."
Yeah, but they're wrong, and if you need 1,001 examples of why and how, then you're simply an indefatigable internet-arguer. Not only do they say this about good people, they act accordingly. Pretending to care about them earns you exactly zero goodboi points when they come at you. I'll not sit by and watch my kids raped and transed because some forum denizen gets the vapors when bad blood is spilled.
"What good has it done?"
A devil has been taken off the field. Her fellow devils, roaches all, are in disarray. A million Karens have cried out in fear and anger, and are now more likely to not stick their stupid faces out their car windows while obstructing necessary law enforcement. Millions have born witness, nodded sagely, and recognized, rightly, that this is how it should be. The good it has done is immediately obvious. FAFO is once again in play. This will save lives, good lives, and maybe even some who've gone bad but yet have time to change their course. Or not, and they'll FO too, and that will also be good.
Not for me. I don't try to antagonize, it's just that I'm a natural at it.
I mean, I thought it was obvious. This has done tremendous PR damage to ICE. Most people think this shooting was not justified. Many more people than before will now resist ICE raids, and numbers of abolishing ICE (a lunatic fringe position previously) have now become mainstream.
And no, this doesn't do any good. Even if I grant you that this is a 'mind-broken psychotic freak', it's one out of how many? It's not making any difference. It's political homeopathy.
People who are Christians do. Also, to point out the obvious, this wasn't an "enemy soldier".
In general, it's fat chickenhawks who cheer slaughter, mayhem and murder.
The guy who wrote the Purgatorio believed in a religion that had 'homicide in public war' as a cause for penance, because you're taking a life that was made in the image of God. You believe in Nietzsche and national socialism. You are not the same.
I'm not doing it for "goodboi points", obviously. I'm doing it because I do have morals, and because this is self-defeating. You don't know because you're a nitwit loudmouth who mistakes bluster for strength.
What are you talking about? A million Karens are galvanized to go after ICE at every moment they can. There's literally an uprising against ICE. Is that a good thing, just because you can feel good about pointless cruelty?