For American elections? Maybe, but even there I wouldn't fully agree.
Europe isn't causing massive havoc for Israel. So their verbal support for Israel bothers me less. And we don't have much of a choice. I can't just wish non-pro-Israel populist right into existence, so I'm going to back the one that exists in the hope that things can get somewhat better for people here.
For the 2016 election, many White Nationalists and even full on self-identified Nazis talked themselves into support Trump despite of his support for Israel. How did that work out?
I can make a case that it worked out well for them, but not intentionally on Trump's part.
If Trump had lost, they'd have blamed his anti-immigration stance and moved in the opposite direction. Now they're at least rhetorically supporting it. White nationalism now is far more mainstreamed than it was in 2015. Would this have happened with a Trump loss that would have been blamed on them? Possibly, but I don't think so.
And even Israel criticism on the right is far more mainstreamed now. You could say it's because of Gaza, but for the right, I think it's the mainstreaming of populism. (Also, Trump's Israel support is so over-the-top that it is counterproductive.)
A lot of politics is just the art of the possible and bringing the ball further down the field. It's not as if Obama ran on "elect me so that BLM can burn down cities". But his election helped move that forward.
You don't follow that movement closely enough then. Charlottesville and the crackdown afterwards was a huge setback. James Fields has a million life sentences because of that. It was Trump's DOJ that piled on hate crime charges. Then there was the deplatforming.
The things you attribute to Trump happened in spite of him. White identity was going to start going mainstream in some form regardless. All the immigration and anti-White woke shit demanded it. What Trump did was co-opt it and attack the real movement.
What you see a lot of today is more like Azov. It's "White Nationalists and Nazis for ZOG" that are most prominent, i.e. Nick Fuentes. Thiel and Bannon created a fake version of the old "alt-right." Your Zionist, Ameriphile European right is an extension of that.
This election should have taught you that Zionism is a deal breaker.
For American elections? Maybe, but even there I wouldn't fully agree.
Europe isn't causing massive havoc for Israel. So their verbal support for Israel bothers me less. And we don't have much of a choice. I can't just wish non-pro-Israel populist right into existence, so I'm going to back the one that exists in the hope that things can get somewhat better for people here.
For the 2016 election, many White Nationalists and even full on self-identified Nazis talked themselves into support Trump despite of his support for Israel. How did that work out?
I can make a case that it worked out well for them, but not intentionally on Trump's part.
If Trump had lost, they'd have blamed his anti-immigration stance and moved in the opposite direction. Now they're at least rhetorically supporting it. White nationalism now is far more mainstreamed than it was in 2015. Would this have happened with a Trump loss that would have been blamed on them? Possibly, but I don't think so.
And even Israel criticism on the right is far more mainstreamed now. You could say it's because of Gaza, but for the right, I think it's the mainstreaming of populism. (Also, Trump's Israel support is so over-the-top that it is counterproductive.)
A lot of politics is just the art of the possible and bringing the ball further down the field. It's not as if Obama ran on "elect me so that BLM can burn down cities". But his election helped move that forward.
You don't follow that movement closely enough then. Charlottesville and the crackdown afterwards was a huge setback. James Fields has a million life sentences because of that. It was Trump's DOJ that piled on hate crime charges. Then there was the deplatforming.
The things you attribute to Trump happened in spite of him. White identity was going to start going mainstream in some form regardless. All the immigration and anti-White woke shit demanded it. What Trump did was co-opt it and attack the real movement.
What you see a lot of today is more like Azov. It's "White Nationalists and Nazis for ZOG" that are most prominent, i.e. Nick Fuentes. Thiel and Bannon created a fake version of the old "alt-right." Your Zionist, Ameriphile European right is an extension of that.