Is Alabama a stop and ID state? If it's not, the only way a cop can ask for ID is if they have reasonable articulable suspicion of a crime. A person can identify with name and birthday.
When I was a municipal prosecutor I had to explain to a cop why he couldn't arrest people for failing to give ID without probable cause. He then tried to invent probable cause in ways that would have gotten the city sued.
Correct. The US Supremes said that years ago.
Even in Canada? Declining to have your car searched is NOT probable cause. Same for showing ID. Name & address is all you need to say.
Cops will said things like "So you don't object to me searching your car?" where any yes OR no gives them consent. You have to carefully say "I do not give consent" :/
Yup. If suspected of a crime, they can ask for but not require ID. A name, address and such are enough.
Apparently they stopped because of that car in the neighbor's driveway? But he said he lives across the street, easy to check before slapping cuffs on him. But nope. Hard to imagine driving across the street to water the flowers :/
Is Alabama a stop and ID state? If it's not, the only way a cop can ask for ID is if they have reasonable articulable suspicion of a crime. A person can identify with name and birthday.
Sounds like the cops really dropped the ball
When I was a municipal prosecutor I had to explain to a cop why he couldn't arrest people for failing to give ID without probable cause. He then tried to invent probable cause in ways that would have gotten the city sued.
Correct. The US Supremes said that years ago.
Even in Canada? Declining to have your car searched is NOT probable cause. Same for showing ID. Name & address is all you need to say.
Cops will said things like "So you don't object to me searching your car?" where any yes OR no gives them consent. You have to carefully say "I do not give consent" :/
Sounds like police in a nutshell. The reason thugs in uniform (police) get away with it is most people can't afford to file a lawsuit.
I’d have to agree
Yup. If suspected of a crime, they can ask for but not require ID. A name, address and such are enough.
Apparently they stopped because of that car in the neighbor's driveway? But he said he lives across the street, easy to check before slapping cuffs on him. But nope. Hard to imagine driving across the street to water the flowers :/
What a gay response