When I was a municipal prosecutor I had to explain to a cop why he couldn't arrest people for failing to give ID without probable cause. He then tried to invent probable cause in ways that would have gotten the city sued.
Correct. The US Supremes said that years ago.
Even in Canada? Declining to have your car searched is NOT probable cause. Same for showing ID. Name & address is all you need to say.
Cops will said things like "So you don't object to me searching your car?" where any yes OR no gives them consent. You have to carefully say "I do not give consent" :/
When I was a municipal prosecutor I had to explain to a cop why he couldn't arrest people for failing to give ID without probable cause. He then tried to invent probable cause in ways that would have gotten the city sued.
Correct. The US Supremes said that years ago.
Even in Canada? Declining to have your car searched is NOT probable cause. Same for showing ID. Name & address is all you need to say.
Cops will said things like "So you don't object to me searching your car?" where any yes OR no gives them consent. You have to carefully say "I do not give consent" :/
Sounds like police in a nutshell. The reason thugs in uniform (police) get away with it is most people can't afford to file a lawsuit.