I'm mixed on the accelerationist argument. I was against it for ages, but I've come around on it in a big way, although still hesitant.
Asmon is completely correct, that the Republicans don't deserve support. Yes, they're less bad than the Dems, absolutely. But I'm to the point where that's not good enough. Republicans are still a net negative to my nation and, if we're going to keep going without a bloody revolution, one of the two parties needs to be completely destroyed and rebuilt. The Republican party has more pro-America sentiment, so is a more likely vehicle for Americanism. So they have to be whipped into shape, and only the people who actually love this country can be supported. No more lesser of two evils bullshit, that's how we got here.
It's a dangerous proposition, but I'm tired of the status quo. I'm tired of the slow spiral. I get that people hate or are scared of Asmon's/Feuntes' argument, and I completely disagree with supporting the Dems (I say vote third party if you can't stomach voting for RINOs), but something needs to change. I don't care that the Republicans are better; they're not capable of saving America, in their current form...so what's the point?
Accelerationism is frustration from being powerless over it. It's swimming downstream instead of upstream; either way the river takes you where it wants to, whether you fight it or not, but it feels like you're doing something swimming with it.
You have to move sideways orthogonal to the current to get anywhere. In this sense you change the culture not the politics.
R party is always going to be lesser of two evils and the only thing you can do about that inside the system is vote in the primary, but most of the time that doesn't actually matter. You have to change the middle to change the parties (that's how they changed the D party into being psychos, they propagandized D voters into thinking the middle was way out in crazy land).
But culture is more like a swamp than a river and you can change it a little bit at a time around you. That's what you should do, and that's what Asmon is doing by highlighting all this politics instead of playing games, and even talking about accelerationism is really to rile people up and change the culture around inaction and complacency.
...change the culture not the politics...change the culture around inaction and complacency...
Yup, that's what I've been realizing recently. A huge core problem is that the people aren't educated or aware enough to demand change. You need a solid people to get a solid government. You have to wake the people up, and then things fall in line from there.
...only thing you can do about that inside the system is vote in the primary, but most of the time that doesn't actually matter...
You should still absolutely do it, though. There are always a few high profile primaries that can change the politics/culture both. Brandon Herrera vs Tony Gonzales. Casey Putsch vs Vivek Ramaswamy. Those would be big swings, and I hope they go the right way.
But culture is more like a swamp than a river and you can change it a little bit at a time around you. That's what you should do, and that's what Asmon is doing...
This demonstrates one of the hidden advantages of the parliamentary systems in Europe.
Look at AfD. They've been completely locked out of power by a coalition government, which seems like a bum deal for AfD voters. How can you have zero representation with like 30% of the vote?
But that coalition isn't addressing any of the issues prompting people to vote AfD, so their vote share is only growing with each election. If this eventually leads to a straight majority for AfD, then they won't just have representation - they'll have complete control. They won't have to compromise or negotiate with their enemies in order to implement policy, and that wouldn't be possible in a two party system with so many inherent "release valves".
That's a fair point, hadn't though of it like that.
On the flipside, there's potential that the longer they remain out of power, the more they pivot to be more acceptable, and by the time they get in AfD is just normie. Because we've seen that in Europe quite a few times, too; just like in the US, when the "outsiders" get in they often cuck.
Republicans are still a net negative to my nation and [. . .] have to be whipped into shape, and only the people who actually love this country can be supported.
The Republican party has been a wishy-washy coalition for a long time, probably since before Eisenhower, but definitely since his fence-sitting ass was at 1600 Pennsylvania. Bastard knew what was happening behind the scenes, did nothing, and sniped at people with vague, snarky commentary.
Reforming the Republican party is going to be like remodeling a antebellum mansion that hasn't seen a lot of skilled tradesmen in... ever. It would be easier, cheaper, and more honoring to the old building to tear it down, salvage what we can, and build something new. I'm down for building a Jeffersonian Party.
Sure. Point is, blindly supporting Red Team or Blue Team won't get us anyway. Destroy and rebuild a party, or destroy a party and have a new one take its place. But sticking with what we've got isn't working. So we're in agreement there.
I'm mixed on the accelerationist argument. I was against it for ages, but I've come around on it in a big way, although still hesitant.
Asmon is completely correct, that the Republicans don't deserve support. Yes, they're less bad than the Dems, absolutely. But I'm to the point where that's not good enough. Republicans are still a net negative to my nation and, if we're going to keep going without a bloody revolution, one of the two parties needs to be completely destroyed and rebuilt. The Republican party has more pro-America sentiment, so is a more likely vehicle for Americanism. So they have to be whipped into shape, and only the people who actually love this country can be supported. No more lesser of two evils bullshit, that's how we got here.
It's a dangerous proposition, but I'm tired of the status quo. I'm tired of the slow spiral. I get that people hate or are scared of Asmon's/Feuntes' argument, and I completely disagree with supporting the Dems (I say vote third party if you can't stomach voting for RINOs), but something needs to change. I don't care that the Republicans are better; they're not capable of saving America, in their current form...so what's the point?
Accelerationism is frustration from being powerless over it. It's swimming downstream instead of upstream; either way the river takes you where it wants to, whether you fight it or not, but it feels like you're doing something swimming with it.
You have to move sideways orthogonal to the current to get anywhere. In this sense you change the culture not the politics.
R party is always going to be lesser of two evils and the only thing you can do about that inside the system is vote in the primary, but most of the time that doesn't actually matter. You have to change the middle to change the parties (that's how they changed the D party into being psychos, they propagandized D voters into thinking the middle was way out in crazy land).
But culture is more like a swamp than a river and you can change it a little bit at a time around you. That's what you should do, and that's what Asmon is doing by highlighting all this politics instead of playing games, and even talking about accelerationism is really to rile people up and change the culture around inaction and complacency.
Well said!
Yup, that's what I've been realizing recently. A huge core problem is that the people aren't educated or aware enough to demand change. You need a solid people to get a solid government. You have to wake the people up, and then things fall in line from there.
You should still absolutely do it, though. There are always a few high profile primaries that can change the politics/culture both. Brandon Herrera vs Tony Gonzales. Casey Putsch vs Vivek Ramaswamy. Those would be big swings, and I hope they go the right way.
Good way to think about it.
This demonstrates one of the hidden advantages of the parliamentary systems in Europe.
Look at AfD. They've been completely locked out of power by a coalition government, which seems like a bum deal for AfD voters. How can you have zero representation with like 30% of the vote?
But that coalition isn't addressing any of the issues prompting people to vote AfD, so their vote share is only growing with each election. If this eventually leads to a straight majority for AfD, then they won't just have representation - they'll have complete control. They won't have to compromise or negotiate with their enemies in order to implement policy, and that wouldn't be possible in a two party system with so many inherent "release valves".
That's a fair point, hadn't though of it like that.
On the flipside, there's potential that the longer they remain out of power, the more they pivot to be more acceptable, and by the time they get in AfD is just normie. Because we've seen that in Europe quite a few times, too; just like in the US, when the "outsiders" get in they often cuck.
The Republican party has been a wishy-washy coalition for a long time, probably since before Eisenhower, but definitely since his fence-sitting ass was at 1600 Pennsylvania. Bastard knew what was happening behind the scenes, did nothing, and sniped at people with vague, snarky commentary.
Reforming the Republican party is going to be like remodeling a antebellum mansion that hasn't seen a lot of skilled tradesmen in... ever. It would be easier, cheaper, and more honoring to the old building to tear it down, salvage what we can, and build something new. I'm down for building a Jeffersonian Party.
Sure. Point is, blindly supporting Red Team or Blue Team won't get us anyway. Destroy and rebuild a party, or destroy a party and have a new one take its place. But sticking with what we've got isn't working. So we're in agreement there.
“Do everything jews want even faster.” Oh boy, it’s so hard to decide whether to agree with that!
Spoiler alert: this is impossible.
When’s the last time it exhibited it? Not for the last 30 years, minimum.
So why pretend that you can vote in a system that publicly admitted voting doesn’t exist?
Yeah because fucking Fuentes was the first person to say that lmao