I remember seeing something from John Carmack about overtime and working on games that was essentially to the point of if they are really into the project they will work overtime because they actually want to finish it. Of course a lot of his experience is on properly sized small dev teams who would have an emotional and financial attachment to the project. Where as I'm sure mega-corp is all salary pay with mandatory overtime and then at the end "yay our game was super successful, so we're giving everyone a Starbucks gift card and bringing in some lunch one day!"
I've never really liked Naughty Dog games honestly. Even the things like Uncharted weren't really doing anything special, just PS fan boys said it did and no one challenged them. They are mediocre playable movies about shooting enemies with godlike armor.
I really don't care if there's crunch. These people are free to quit, or to simply work 40 hour weeks and see if they actually get fired. Everyone has known about "crunch time" in game development for decades, so it's not like it's an unfair surprise. It's no different from complaining you're not being paid enough: If it's really true, then negotiate for a raise. If you can't, because there are a thousand people who would love to be in your position who are just as talented, then I guess you're being paid what you deserve.
Fuck your free market cuckoldry, we undergoing attacks via immigration that cause wage stagnation and a race to the bottom against the third world, I have no room for your tolerance.
No, fuck you and your belief that businesses have infinite money for their employees to fuck around with. It's thanks to literal communists like you that our entire manufacturing sector moved to China. You're upset about immigration? Great, so am I, let's shut down immigration. That has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that these idiots think they're worth more than they are. The resolution to their problem is the same as is available to absolutely everyone else: Be valuable enough to say no, or leave and work somewhere else. Plenty of industries don't have crunch time, but they chose to work in game development because they like games. Tough for them that a lot of other people do too.
Employees don't owe employers labor, but employers don't owe employees a job either. If you disagree with that, I hope you like bread lines, comrade.
The solution to that is to eliminate the H-1B program. Outlawing overtime wouldn't save them from being replaced by H-1Bs anyway, but it might help push the entire industry somewhere overtime is allowed, in which case they lose their jobs entirely.
Yeah I really can't argue that. Get up and go home at the end of the day. If you really are that valuable to the project they won't do a damn thing about it. If they do anyway, you are valuable enough to dictate terms elsewhere.
If it was me personally I'm either negotiating royalty-type pay based on the game's success or fucking off at the end of the day. Not that I'd ever consider working in a corporate game dev organization. I can find other ways to curb starvation.
I remember seeing something from John Carmack about overtime and working on games that was essentially to the point of if they are really into the project they will work overtime because they actually want to finish it. Of course a lot of his experience is on properly sized small dev teams who would have an emotional and financial attachment to the project. Where as I'm sure mega-corp is all salary pay with mandatory overtime and then at the end "yay our game was super successful, so we're giving everyone a Starbucks gift card and bringing in some lunch one day!"
I've never really liked Naughty Dog games honestly. Even the things like Uncharted weren't really doing anything special, just PS fan boys said it did and no one challenged them. They are mediocre playable movies about shooting enemies with godlike armor.
I liked Crash Bandicoot...
Same. They've made nothing but Uncharted-likes for the past twenty years, but before that they were making Crash Bandicoot and Jak & Daxter.
I really don't care if there's crunch. These people are free to quit, or to simply work 40 hour weeks and see if they actually get fired. Everyone has known about "crunch time" in game development for decades, so it's not like it's an unfair surprise. It's no different from complaining you're not being paid enough: If it's really true, then negotiate for a raise. If you can't, because there are a thousand people who would love to be in your position who are just as talented, then I guess you're being paid what you deserve.
Fuck your free market cuckoldry, we undergoing attacks via immigration that cause wage stagnation and a race to the bottom against the third world, I have no room for your tolerance.
No, fuck you and your belief that businesses have infinite money for their employees to fuck around with. It's thanks to literal communists like you that our entire manufacturing sector moved to China. You're upset about immigration? Great, so am I, let's shut down immigration. That has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that these idiots think they're worth more than they are. The resolution to their problem is the same as is available to absolutely everyone else: Be valuable enough to say no, or leave and work somewhere else. Plenty of industries don't have crunch time, but they chose to work in game development because they like games. Tough for them that a lot of other people do too.
Employees don't owe employers labor, but employers don't owe employees a job either. If you disagree with that, I hope you like bread lines, comrade.
"muh free market" lolberts are just as much a plague as any SJW. Communism was downright based compared to the talmudic corpo-nightmare we have now.
Don't believe me? Here is Moscow in the 1950s. Clean, safe, high trust and ethnically homogeneous. Meanwhile in "free" America, our "brave" soldiers were forcing racial miscegenation on Whites at gunpoint.
What if there are 10,000 H-1Bs fresh from India who want to do your job for half what you make, and they're 60% as talented?
The solution to that is to eliminate the H-1B program. Outlawing overtime wouldn't save them from being replaced by H-1Bs anyway, but it might help push the entire industry somewhere overtime is allowed, in which case they lose their jobs entirely.
Yeah I really can't argue that. Get up and go home at the end of the day. If you really are that valuable to the project they won't do a damn thing about it. If they do anyway, you are valuable enough to dictate terms elsewhere.
If it was me personally I'm either negotiating royalty-type pay based on the game's success or fucking off at the end of the day. Not that I'd ever consider working in a corporate game dev organization. I can find other ways to curb starvation.
Didn't they also make Jax?
It feels like they make a new series every generation