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Dark arts and black magic: How fiction tried to warn us about technology (scored.co)
posted 220 days ago by Zyxl 220 days ago by Zyxl +19 / -0
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– deleted 9 points 220 days ago +9 / -0
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– HallucinatoryBeing 9 points 220 days ago +9 / -0

That just sounds like Brave New World.

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– horstshort 7 points 220 days ago +7 / -0

Technology does the same, it feeds on the human soul to reward us with fleeting pleasures and ease of attaining whatever we want whenever we want.

It doesn't have to be this way. In the anime the magi nation use it to empower and enrich themselves. They manipulate and use that underclass as literal cattle. Also the leader of that nation has a suspiciously large hook nose. And I shit you not they call all non-magi Goi.

Technology is a tool. It depends how you use it. If you use it as a tool to manipulate and control then it will destroy human souls.

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– Zyxl [S] 2 points 220 days ago +2 / -0

Thanks, I'll take a look. I also agree with your assessment of technology.

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– deleted 1 point 219 days ago +1 / -0
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– nikgtasa 1 point 220 days ago +1 / -0

That's a long anime title. What's it about?

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– dagthegnome 6 points 220 days ago +6 / -0

Dr Faustus is the most relevant fable in the entire history of moral philosophy, and one of the reasons Marlowe has always been better than Shakespeare.

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– Zyxl [S] 4 points 220 days ago +4 / -0

That's a classic, although not exactly a downward spiral or one that the average person knows well.

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– dagthegnome 6 points 220 days ago +6 / -0

It's the ultimate downward spiral. The story of a man whose own desire for knowledge and understanding overrides all moral concerns, drives him insane and leads him into the arms of the Devil. The quintessential example of the scientist only caring whether he can, and never stopping to ask whether he should.

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– Zyxl [S] 3 points 220 days ago +3 / -0

Well right near the start he signs a contract with a demon and his fate is pretty much sealed at that point rather than getting worse each time he attempts to fix things with dark powers. Otherwise it's a good example.

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– dagthegnome 7 points 220 days ago +7 / -0

Yes, but the play is an examination of the downward spiral of his own psyche. His soul is damned from the beginning, but only at the very end does he come to understand what that means. Much like any scientist who makes a brilliant discovery or invents a revolutionary new piece of technology only to realize after he's done so that he's created the means of his own destruction. Oppenheimer always knew he was creating a weapon, but he only came out with the "Now I am become death, destroyer of worlds" quote after he completed it and saw it tested. I know it's not directly analogous to the point you're making about AI specifically, but the psychology behind it is the same.

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– Zyxl [S] 4 points 220 days ago +4 / -0

I see what you're saying, thanks

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– PM-Melania-feet-pics 6 points 220 days ago +6 / -0

The jew of Malta's even better.

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– dagthegnome 5 points 220 days ago +5 / -0

Thou hast committed fornication! But that was in another country and besides, the wench is dead.

-Barabas

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– Zyxl [S] 2 points 220 days ago +2 / -0

I looked up the synopsis but could you explain how you see it relating to this topic? I can see it's a downward moral spiral but caused by what? What is the power that comes with this moral price?

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– PM-Melania-feet-pics 4 points 220 days ago +4 / -0

If you're into Marlowe it warrants a deep dive (as well as the actual history of jews in Malta).

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– CatoTheElder 2 points 220 days ago +2 / -0

Don't blame the tools, blame the tools that control them.

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– Zyxl [S] 3 points 220 days ago +3 / -0

That's 99% of people. Hardly anyone sees the point in doing things the hard way, nor do they have the will power to pursue that. It's hard to blame them when the rest of society makes it impossible to succeed without using the latest technology.

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