Vatican 2 is fake and gay!
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Speaking as a dirty, protestant heretic, as Christians we all ought to take Christ seriously when He said "No one comes to the Father but through Me."
As a Deist I say "Meh! If God wanted me to act a specific way, why did He give me freewill?"
Why would He even need to create automatons? We already have ants and things.
Those sad lost souls over on r/Atheism make the best case for a hell on earth existing, endlessly parroting the "if God real why bad things" cliche. As though a "loving" Father is just a genie that gives you what you want so that you can want more. None of them see that their misery is their own doing and they're cursed to meaningless suffering chasing dopamine hits until they die.
They also miss a couple facts, first that a loving father will want his children to grow strong. You can't grow strong without struggle, so of course there will be bad things. Secondly, not all are chosen. "No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day." - John 6:44
It'd be a pretty shit game if you never left the tutorial.
A loving father is a human, with all the flaws that implies.
Your church and religion makes the claim that your god is perfect and almighty. Thus, by your own doctrinal logic, evil is either an error in the great work, and thus your god is neither perfect nor almighty, or entirely intentional and necessary to the great work, and thus your god intentionally created evil and misery and inflicted it upon people while calling itself perfectly good and righteous, which meets your own criteria of evil in every respect except the "doesn't listen to god" requirement, which itself becomes hard to consider tenable when the god under consideration cannot be considered an impartial and righteous moral arbitrator, on account of willingly creating the perpetrating evil.
And please don't answer this with the standard "whatever my god says is good is obviously good, it makes the rules" response; excusing evil because the one committing the evil holds overwhelming power isn't acceptable even in your own moral framework.
And who are you to define good or evil? Look at the world around you. There are (((postmodernists))) redefining those terms for their own ends all the time.
This is a tired old argument and I'm not interested in pursuing it. I won't change your mind and you won't change mine.
God created the universe to be perfect for His purposes. What are those? We have no idea. But perfection can include flaws too. Without bad things, how would we know what the good things are?
As an ignorant Christian, you are free to do as you want but God chooses who can spend eternity with Him. Similar with how we choose with whom to associate.
I'm probably wrong but as far as I could see there is no hell per say in the Bible but rather you're not with God if you don't fallow the rules.
Read it again, Jesus talks about hell in the parable of the wedding banquet the whole "they will be cast out, where there will be much wailing and gnashing of teeth"
Revelation literally says Hell will come to Earth in the final days "And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him" Revelation 6:8
I said I'm probably wrong. I knew about the parable but as I see it the gnashing of teeth comes from not being let in but Revelation does prove me wrong
Also in the parable of Lazarus and the rich man.