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You act as though the religious people just want to "talk" about it. You guys never abandoned the preaching, you've simply become more circumspect of where you try it because you've lost institutional power. Its absolutely the height of hypocrisy to condemn atheists for doing exactly what the religious do.
Every baby is born an atheist. Religion must be forced upon people to exist at all. It is literally a mind virus, and must have hosts to survive; were all traces of any religion be destroyed, it would never be rediscovered, because it has no basis in reality.
And I'll stop telling you to get jesus' cock out of your collective mouths when you stop bringing religion up in casual conversation. If I'm speaking with someone and they never say god, demon, jesus, or whatever, I'll never say anything either.
But something like four fifths of the people around here want to justify whatever nonsense they're spouting with "but muh jesus", so here we are, talking about it again.
Oh yeah, be insulted by people genuinely believing they are concerned about your eternal soul. You clearly cannot think in the abstract and try to look at it from their point of view.
Of course I'm insulted of people want to push their fiction on me and use it to control my life and choices.
That's as retarded as saying "oh, you're insulted that people are worried about your alignment/midichlorian levels/chakra balance/displeasing the ancestors/curse of the totem". Yes, it's perfectly normal and entirely justified to be annoyed.
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How did the first religion get started then you fucking mongoloid? How did religion get started independently on every continent and in every culture?
People MADE UP the first religion. And the second. And the third.
If it were so real and objective, what were the tenets and who were the god or gods of the first religion?
You don't know this, because that religion died. All traces of it were destroyed or subsumed into descendant religions.
Because the first religion, like every other, was made up by people, and when those people died and there was no one left tomorrow pretend, the game was forgotten and replaced.
Treat others as you’d like to be treated - you might have heard about this before, “the golden rule”, independently reached by basically every religion on every continent in human history.
Creation, the natural world, the universe itself, with various degrees of anthropomorphization, just like today
Are you really this dumb? By your logic nothing in human society exists - we invented capitalism, if it died out today it would never come back exactly the same, does “capitalism” not exist?
This is the tenet of modern secularism philosophy, you absolute ham sandwich. The first primitive religion was most likely "obey chief spirit totem, listen to shaman". We didn't invent this equality doctrine until very recently. Most old religions explicitly told people to convert or kill heathens.
Don't make up bullshit to try to support your argument.
And they were all different. That's the key point. There are a thousand sky and rain gods, but a triangle has three points across the globe. The gods are made up to try to explain the world, and the triangle is a mathematical reference marker independently discovered by every culture that discovered mathematics. Notice that triangles are the same except for the name in every country, but the gods vary in every way.
You are in no position to call anyone dumb, sir. But to tackle your last point, again a fundamental misunderstanding of reality. Capitalism is the NAME we have given to the method of exchange where we have arbitrarily defined certain objects to be empowered with worth, and we trade labor or goods for those objects in order to overcome the limitation of traditional barter, which requires the coincidence of wants before trade can happen.
If our entire culture were to magically vanish overnight, others would still rediscover the concept of money and how useful it is as a medium of trade. They would not independently rediscover jesus and the cross or buddha and the lotus flower, or izanagi and the border of yomi, or anything else. Again, because money and trade has a basis in reality, and religion doesn't.
No it's not hypocrisy because religions build civilised nations, atheism tears them down.
All atheists are moral relativists. You cannot build nor sustain a society that way, because what's morally reprehensible to one person might be morally acceptable to someone else.
It's why you don't see modern societies built out of that societal concept, because it inevitably devolves into degeneracy (which, unironically, we're seeing happening to western nations as they become more Godless).
The bigger issue is that all atheists are narcissists. Actually, worse yet, solipsistic.
Most come from ultra-fundamentalist households and decide to rebel by denying there is anything greater than themselves in the universe (and I imagine you're under 25, and come from such a background since you haven't done the thorough introspection to question how the world actually works).
All that being said, atheism is a fundamentally broken system for people who lack critical thinking skills. And this is proven by the fact that in order for atheism to be a viable way for anyone to think, you have to ignore the fact that reality has rules.
While I normally also sperg out and post a counter-manifesto to such a long post, I'll simply pull one jenga piece from your tower and let the rest fall apart.
People don't "deny" that the universe itself is larger and greater than man. We simply don't imagine an anthrocentric universe with a governing intelligence that somehow is responsible for a universe of supreme scope that nevertheless hyperfocuses on a bunch of barely evolved apes on an insignificant planet in an insignificant galaxy.
Or, to put it in small words, we don't need to imagine a god to explain the universe. We accept that the universe is, and we're not self-obsessed enough to demand to personify it, and we lack the absolute hubris to imagine that, were there some greater being that created reality, some bronze-age goat herders in a desert were able to accurately identify and describe it to us, when odds are greatest that if there IS a god or gods out there, they'd be more akin to the friendly beings you encounter in H.P. Lovecraft's works.
And don't imagine me, if you'd be so kind. I don't want to be part of whatever fantasies you have fermenting in your skull.
Begging the question here. No religion states that God hyper-focuses on humans.
Then you'd have to accept that it, once again, has rules. And there is no such thing as a system with rules without having those rules defined.
That's like claiming software programs exist simply because, while denying the fact that software engineering dictates the rules upon which those programs exist. No program exists in a vacuum without being written.
Ergo, every rule is part of a system and every system is designed.
False dilemma. Where was it stated that those in H.P. Lovecraft's works don't exist?
Nonsense. Every religion insists their god hyperfocuses on humans, either directly, like the abrahamic faiths that insist their god created the world for humans, or indirectly, like the pantheons of the greeks, japanese, or hindus, whose gods have entire universes to run and yet insist on getting involved in human affairs. And then there are the religions that aren't just hyperfocused, but who directly appoint "divine rulers" of the earth, like the chinese mandate of heaven.
False equivalency coupled with a fundamental misunderstanding of reality. Reality doesn't have rules, reality has interactions. There is nothing telling like charges to repel or heat to flow from hot to cold, there are only the interactions of energy fields.
And the systems, such as they are, emerge from the equilibrium points of the interactions of these energy fields. Reality isn't software, created by someone with a purpose. Reality is instead the gorges, ravines, and overhangs created by wind and water. Sure, a stream can be used by us for water, clay, and silt, but it came into being by a simple interaction of earth and water, not by any plan or intelligence. Stars do not fuse hydrogen and helium because that was the best way to warm planets; they simply are, the direct and natural consequence of their makeup.
Reality was not designed.
Your religion, and every other religion. Also, yes, his books exist, you muppet. But nyarlahotep and al azoz and azatoth do not.