I don't trust Charlie Kirk any more than I do the rest of the controlled opposition Con Inc, but a W is a W. Be happy that the Overton Window is shifting.
Someone recently called in and asked Charlie if he would speak with Nick Fuentes, and Charlie completely dismissed the question as "bad faith". He seems to say that a lot. It doesn't matter if anyone agrees or disagrees with either one, but at least being able to speak about pressing matters and address the elephants in the room might at least help put people on the right path for correcting some of the problems.
Nevertheless, he seems to be placating the more vocal members of his community, but acknowledgment without action is fruitless.
Dude in 10 out of 10 outcomes Charlie Kirk would sabotage his career by speaking with Nick. He's never going to do it. The Overton window would have to basically teleport for that to happen.
You guys are like "If Andrew Jackson doesn't rise from the dead and take the White House then nothing is happening"
Dude in 10 out of 10 outcomes Charlie Kirk would sabotage his career by speaking with Nick. He's never going to do it.
That's the crux of the matter there. Kirk's career is more important than speaking about the actual issues in an actionable and productive way. He can proselytise good vibes and "doing the right thing", but he oftentimes ignores the catalysts behind the problems that he's not exactly addressing head-on -- other than to spout platitudes to get a few nods from his followers, and silence some of his more vocal detractors.
He hides behind "bad faith questions" as a retort all the time as a way to save face for -- as you pointed out -- his career. It's a way to dodge the actual issues plaguing the modern male youth in first-world nations.
It is. Because it means people are willing to engage with actual problems instead of dancing around obvious issues and pretending that just "getting married and having kids" will fix the jogger problem, the immigration problems, the rape gangs in England, Sweden, Denmark, Germany and France, and the housing crises affecting a nearly non-existent middle-class in first-world nations.
Charlie putting out empty platitudes doesn't change what's actually happening. The Overton Window doesn't shift until people who enact action in any of the regions where the Great Replacement is happening actually put forward policies that people can openly talk about and get behind to STOP the replacement. Otherwise, it's pointless bloviating.
Dude, even if Nick Fuentes’ professed beliefs were smack dab in the middle of the Overton Window—and by the way, the second they were, he’d change all of them to be more extreme, because that’s the kind of person he is—it would still be dumb to engage with him because he’s a flip flopping, bad faith troll who spends more time winding his audience up to attack putative allies than basically anything else. At best, he’s completely incapable of prioritization or nuance. At worst—and more likely—he’s overtly hostile to any real right-wing progress being made.
It doesn't matter what his beliefs are, he's talking about things impacting the average young White male in the U.K., and the U.S., in open and honest ways that almost none of the anti-establishment voices are. There's no question he's a plant, but he's a plant using talking points that directly correlate with what's affecting today's youth generation -- the same one being replaced, as inferred to by Charlie Kirk in his post.
It would make sense that if the people who actually cared about that replacement would talk to the person who has been fairly vocal about these issues recently. Even if Nick is a troll it doesn't discount the truth of what's happening. If Kirk actually wanted actionable solutions, he SHOULD be talking to Fuentes to address what his plans are to actually fix these problems, instead of simply saying "feminism bad; men need to get married to good women".
Yeah, mate, great... but how are you going to fix any of the issues that led to the current situation being the way that it is?
I don't trust Charlie Kirk any more than I do the rest of the controlled opposition Con Inc, but a W is a W. Be happy that the Overton Window is shifting.
Is it really shifting?
Someone recently called in and asked Charlie if he would speak with Nick Fuentes, and Charlie completely dismissed the question as "bad faith". He seems to say that a lot. It doesn't matter if anyone agrees or disagrees with either one, but at least being able to speak about pressing matters and address the elephants in the room might at least help put people on the right path for correcting some of the problems.
Nevertheless, he seems to be placating the more vocal members of his community, but acknowledgment without action is fruitless.
Yes. Because Nick is explicitly bad faith, and is a degenerate meztizo mongrel by his own analysis, who has no business being in America.
Dude in 10 out of 10 outcomes Charlie Kirk would sabotage his career by speaking with Nick. He's never going to do it. The Overton window would have to basically teleport for that to happen.
You guys are like "If Andrew Jackson doesn't rise from the dead and take the White House then nothing is happening"
That's the crux of the matter there. Kirk's career is more important than speaking about the actual issues in an actionable and productive way. He can proselytise good vibes and "doing the right thing", but he oftentimes ignores the catalysts behind the problems that he's not exactly addressing head-on -- other than to spout platitudes to get a few nods from his followers, and silence some of his more vocal detractors.
He hides behind "bad faith questions" as a retort all the time as a way to save face for -- as you pointed out -- his career. It's a way to dodge the actual issues plaguing the modern male youth in first-world nations.
Oh, my bad. I didn't realize that people's willingness to talk to Nick Fuentes was the litmus test for Overton Window shifts. Silly me.
It is. Because it means people are willing to engage with actual problems instead of dancing around obvious issues and pretending that just "getting married and having kids" will fix the jogger problem, the immigration problems, the rape gangs in England, Sweden, Denmark, Germany and France, and the housing crises affecting a nearly non-existent middle-class in first-world nations.
Charlie putting out empty platitudes doesn't change what's actually happening. The Overton Window doesn't shift until people who enact action in any of the regions where the Great Replacement is happening actually put forward policies that people can openly talk about and get behind to STOP the replacement. Otherwise, it's pointless bloviating.
Dude, even if Nick Fuentes’ professed beliefs were smack dab in the middle of the Overton Window—and by the way, the second they were, he’d change all of them to be more extreme, because that’s the kind of person he is—it would still be dumb to engage with him because he’s a flip flopping, bad faith troll who spends more time winding his audience up to attack putative allies than basically anything else. At best, he’s completely incapable of prioritization or nuance. At worst—and more likely—he’s overtly hostile to any real right-wing progress being made.
It doesn't matter what his beliefs are, he's talking about things impacting the average young White male in the U.K., and the U.S., in open and honest ways that almost none of the anti-establishment voices are. There's no question he's a plant, but he's a plant using talking points that directly correlate with what's affecting today's youth generation -- the same one being replaced, as inferred to by Charlie Kirk in his post.
It would make sense that if the people who actually cared about that replacement would talk to the person who has been fairly vocal about these issues recently. Even if Nick is a troll it doesn't discount the truth of what's happening. If Kirk actually wanted actionable solutions, he SHOULD be talking to Fuentes to address what his plans are to actually fix these problems, instead of simply saying "feminism bad; men need to get married to good women".
Yeah, mate, great... but how are you going to fix any of the issues that led to the current situation being the way that it is?