Some NFL positions are disproportionately black, and others are disproportionately White (e.g. quarterbacks). Do blacks "not have the playing talent" to be quarterbacks?
(The answer, of course, is that different races have fundamental differences in aptitude across all areas, which is why the list of top sprinters and the list of top powerlifters have two very different racial makeups, but you're not going to admit that.)
No, college football is the entry pathway, and they try to hit a certain demographic balance. Because blacks do much worse academically than other races, and are about equal athletically, colleges do skew their athletic recruiting a certain way.
Damon Allen! Marcus Allen's younger brother.
I was watching a bowl game, 1982 perhaps? He was the backup QB for a college team that went to a bowl game & lost badly. The starting (White) QB sucked all game long, and Damon went in mid 4th quarter. He threw for (iirc, this was long ago!) 200 yards 2 TD and an interception. In about 8 minutes. It was more than the other guy did the whole game.
The next 2 years he started for them but he never got drafted into the NFL. Baseball yes! But he went to the CFL. He had a legendary career, to say the least, both passing and rushing he was a beast.
He finished with just 320 yards rushing yards less than his brother did! It was all CFL ofc.
Also: Warren Moon, he had to play in the CFL, no NFL team would touch him until he proved himself to be in the top 3 QBs on the planet (one of the others being Dieter Brock in the CFL too!) year after year.
My point is that a great, legend-level Black QB didn't even get drafted in the NFL back in the day. The bias was very real. His brother, a running back, did though.
There's less of it today as teams try to bet the best "bang for the buck" and can't afford to let real talent slip away to other teams just because of racism. But now it goes "the other way" too with Whites getting overlooked at certain positions. :/
Some NFL positions are disproportionately black, and others are disproportionately White (e.g. quarterbacks). Do blacks "not have the playing talent" to be quarterbacks?
(The answer, of course, is that different races have fundamental differences in aptitude across all areas, which is why the list of top sprinters and the list of top powerlifters have two very different racial makeups, but you're not going to admit that.)
So then there’s no discrimination?
No, college football is the entry pathway, and they try to hit a certain demographic balance. Because blacks do much worse academically than other races, and are about equal athletically, colleges do skew their athletic recruiting a certain way.
If theyre about equal athletically, how come so many of the best WRs and RBs are black?
I just told you. Are you a bot or something?
Damon Allen! Marcus Allen's younger brother.
I was watching a bowl game, 1982 perhaps? He was the backup QB for a college team that went to a bowl game & lost badly. The starting (White) QB sucked all game long, and Damon went in mid 4th quarter. He threw for (iirc, this was long ago!) 200 yards 2 TD and an interception. In about 8 minutes. It was more than the other guy did the whole game.
The next 2 years he started for them but he never got drafted into the NFL. Baseball yes! But he went to the CFL. He had a legendary career, to say the least, both passing and rushing he was a beast.
He finished with just 320 yards rushing yards less than his brother did! It was all CFL ofc.
Also: Warren Moon, he had to play in the CFL, no NFL team would touch him until he proved himself to be in the top 3 QBs on the planet (one of the others being Dieter Brock in the CFL too!) year after year.
You can't counter statistical trends with anecdotes.
My point is that a great, legend-level Black QB didn't even get drafted in the NFL back in the day. The bias was very real. His brother, a running back, did though.
There's less of it today as teams try to bet the best "bang for the buck" and can't afford to let real talent slip away to other teams just because of racism. But now it goes "the other way" too with Whites getting overlooked at certain positions. :/