Jesus says twice they are not Jews. I don't know why it's so hard for followers of Jesus to hear Jesus say they are not Jews and to tell him they are Jews. Too much Scofield interpretation going on, methinks, self-deprecating.
Hey doofus, He also says “they say they are jews” - so until you can explain to the class your special jewdar which lets you tell “the good jews” from “those who say they are jews but are not and do lie”, save your self-righteous indignation and gaslighting for zionist summer camp
Jews are people born or naturalized into the family of Judah and his brothers. Pretty simple. The family as a group monitors itself.
Though there are edge cases, they do not extend to the general claim that e.g. (pick your favorite) all Ashkenazim are not Jews. The fact is that Ashkenazim have been accepted by (basically) all Jews as Jews since they became a subtribe. There's no edge-case status about that.
The burden is on you to show something historical, like the merger of two peoples somehow causing the loss of rights to continue using the name of one of those two peoples (which has never happened AFAIK).
However, there has never been a right for outsiders to name groups maliciously against the groups' preferences. For instance, some whites reject the right of Jews to define the term "white".
This comment was pretty well complete but unposted when I dealt with a minor family emergency, so it will have to do for now. Thank you for the civilized discussion.
You seem to be disappointed that I wrote 200 words to frame a useful historical document I posted without putting more than a "---" to indicate where the document began (to those who couldn't tell it was a document); that's the main reference I understand your comments to mean.
If you mean all my comments taken together, you raised many issues. The one sentence necessary to the issue in this comment is what most people understand: Though unimportant outliers exist, Jewishness is defined by birth or naturalization into the self-maintained Jewish people historically descended from Judah and his brothers.
No, im disappointed that the savior of mankind, in the book most oriented towards “the future”, tells us about “them of the synagogue of Satan, who say they are Jews and are not, but do lie”, and you can’t see the forest in front of you because you’ve smashed your face into the tree named “ulla”
You love to preach the multiple meanings folded into Jesus’ words…well, except when it comes to anything related to the genocidal state of israel
Hey doofus, He also says “they say they are jews” - so until you can explain to the class your special jewdar which lets you tell “the good jews” from “those who say they are jews but are not and do lie”, save your self-righteous indignation and gaslighting for zionist summer camp
Jews are people born or naturalized into the family of Judah and his brothers. Pretty simple. The family as a group monitors itself.
Though there are edge cases, they do not extend to the general claim that e.g. (pick your favorite) all Ashkenazim are not Jews. The fact is that Ashkenazim have been accepted by (basically) all Jews as Jews since they became a subtribe. There's no edge-case status about that.
The burden is on you to show something historical, like the merger of two peoples somehow causing the loss of rights to continue using the name of one of those two peoples (which has never happened AFAIK).
However, there has never been a right for outsiders to name groups maliciously against the groups' preferences. For instance, some whites reject the right of Jews to define the term "white".
This comment was pretty well complete but unposted when I dealt with a minor family emergency, so it will have to do for now. Thank you for the civilized discussion.
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You seem to be disappointed that I wrote 200 words to frame a useful historical document I posted without putting more than a "---" to indicate where the document began (to those who couldn't tell it was a document); that's the main reference I understand your comments to mean.
If you mean all my comments taken together, you raised many issues. The one sentence necessary to the issue in this comment is what most people understand: Though unimportant outliers exist, Jewishness is defined by birth or naturalization into the self-maintained Jewish people historically descended from Judah and his brothers.
No, im disappointed that the savior of mankind, in the book most oriented towards “the future”, tells us about “them of the synagogue of Satan, who say they are Jews and are not, but do lie”, and you can’t see the forest in front of you because you’ve smashed your face into the tree named “ulla”
You love to preach the multiple meanings folded into Jesus’ words…well, except when it comes to anything related to the genocidal state of israel