I think there's a kernel of truth to what he's saying.
But I also think that he's reflexively throwing in the "women are gullible morons susceptible to AI simping BUT don't actually want to fuck it" waiver because the core tenet of his redpill content is based on the idea that being a "bad boy" is how to create female attraction.
Again, not saying he's wrong about that either, but I think he's also shoehorning it into this hypothetical to stay consistent with messaging to protect his brand.
I think he's also shoehorning it into this hypothetical to stay consistent with messaging to protect his brand.
I think it fits pretty well even though I agree it probably wouldn't have come up if it weren't for his red pill brand. The point is that offering validation and being an emotional tampon doesn't create attraction whether a man or bot is offering it. It does much to send a signal that she's stumbled upon a chump she can exploit, however. They obviously can't exploit a bot for cash and prizes and that's why I'm skeptical that women will replace the opposite sex with AI at anywhere near the same rate as men.
I mean isn’t the female sex toy market way more developed than the male one? They have vibrating dildos and others while men have trouble even getting vibrating fleshlights
Those aren't mutually exclusive. The scum women like that are attracted to are great at love bombing. That's part of the whole process. "Damn girl I've never been so in love, you're the most beautiful woman I've ever seen, I wanna build a new life with you" and so forth. Then the woman lets him raw dog her (because it's TRUE LOVE THIS TIME even though we just met 15 minutes ago) and he vanishes forever. Or maybe he does stick around and treats her like shit, but every so often he'll love bomb her again and it'll undo all the abuse and neglect.
This is the MO literally 100% of the time. The left half of the female bell curve falls for love bombing no matter how obvious and hackneyed, and they fall for it every time.
hoe_math's core work, the Zones chart, is based on the concept that women only respond to "love bombing" from men that they are already attracted to (ie. dudes with bad boy traits).
His Zones chart tries to demonstrate that pouring resources (ie. being nice) to a woman who has no attraction to you will never change that fact no matter the investment.
The AI has the capacity to pour adulation, but it can't really fulfill the bad boy carnal attraction bit.
I think the AI boyfriend example would be better framed that a good chunk of women eat up & are addicted to social media attention. Which feeds their ego & their pleasure centers, but doesn't really replace sexual attraction.
I don't think any of these women are experiencing even the slightest bit of sexual attraction here. It's all just validation. If they couldn't show off their pretend boy toys none of them would be doing this.
The problem is, they're not aware of it. The AI boyfriend is an excuse to run to Reddit and get upvotes and ass pats, but they don't understand second order effects so they're attributing the dopamine rush to the AI, not the validation.
Please also notice that it does not make them aroused, just attached
I'm not even sure what we are arguing anymore.
My original point was that hoe_math had to slip in the "they like attention but don't want to fuck the AI" because his whole branding has some cognitive dissonance that
loves to shit on women as dumb, attention-seeking automatons
gives out redpill advice that women only want to fuck Chads. So don't be nice to them, be Chad instead.
He had to add the "not aroused" waiver here because suggesting that women get infatuated only with endless attention (without the Chad/bad boy asshole part), might confuse his audience if they take a step back.
But he also can't help himself shitting on women at every opportunity even if it doesn't fit his "women love assholes" framework.
I don’t think it’s just a matter of validation from Reddit but from the llm itself. There were a few cases of women already getting very attached to llms and not just in a bf sense. But one claimed the llm she talked to was an interdimensional entity
I think there's a kernel of truth to what he's saying.
But I also think that he's reflexively throwing in the "women are gullible morons susceptible to AI simping BUT don't actually want to fuck it" waiver because the core tenet of his redpill content is based on the idea that being a "bad boy" is how to create female attraction.
Again, not saying he's wrong about that either, but I think he's also shoehorning it into this hypothetical to stay consistent with messaging to protect his brand.
I think it fits pretty well even though I agree it probably wouldn't have come up if it weren't for his red pill brand. The point is that offering validation and being an emotional tampon doesn't create attraction whether a man or bot is offering it. It does much to send a signal that she's stumbled upon a chump she can exploit, however. They obviously can't exploit a bot for cash and prizes and that's why I'm skeptical that women will replace the opposite sex with AI at anywhere near the same rate as men.
they'll replace the opposite sex at a greater number than men
I'm going to laugh so hard when they bring AI-powered sex bots to market and the average customer turns out to be single women above 40.
I mean isn’t the female sex toy market way more developed than the male one? They have vibrating dildos and others while men have trouble even getting vibrating fleshlights
Those aren't mutually exclusive. The scum women like that are attracted to are great at love bombing. That's part of the whole process. "Damn girl I've never been so in love, you're the most beautiful woman I've ever seen, I wanna build a new life with you" and so forth. Then the woman lets him raw dog her (because it's TRUE LOVE THIS TIME even though we just met 15 minutes ago) and he vanishes forever. Or maybe he does stick around and treats her like shit, but every so often he'll love bomb her again and it'll undo all the abuse and neglect.
This is the MO literally 100% of the time. The left half of the female bell curve falls for love bombing no matter how obvious and hackneyed, and they fall for it every time.
hoe_math's core work, the Zones chart, is based on the concept that women only respond to "love bombing" from men that they are already attracted to (ie. dudes with bad boy traits).
His Zones chart tries to demonstrate that pouring resources (ie. being nice) to a woman who has no attraction to you will never change that fact no matter the investment.
The AI has the capacity to pour adulation, but it can't really fulfill the bad boy carnal attraction bit.
I think the AI boyfriend example would be better framed that a good chunk of women eat up & are addicted to social media attention. Which feeds their ego & their pleasure centers, but doesn't really replace sexual attraction.
I don't think any of these women are experiencing even the slightest bit of sexual attraction here. It's all just validation. If they couldn't show off their pretend boy toys none of them would be doing this.
The problem is, they're not aware of it. The AI boyfriend is an excuse to run to Reddit and get upvotes and ass pats, but they don't understand second order effects so they're attributing the dopamine rush to the AI, not the validation.
The OG tweet
I'm not even sure what we are arguing anymore.
My original point was that hoe_math had to slip in the "they like attention but don't want to fuck the AI" because his whole branding has some cognitive dissonance that
He had to add the "not aroused" waiver here because suggesting that women get infatuated only with endless attention (without the Chad/bad boy asshole part), might confuse his audience if they take a step back.
But he also can't help himself shitting on women at every opportunity even if it doesn't fit his "women love assholes" framework.
I don’t think it’s just a matter of validation from Reddit but from the llm itself. There were a few cases of women already getting very attached to llms and not just in a bf sense. But one claimed the llm she talked to was an interdimensional entity