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Retro gaming question/recommendation request
posted 329 days ago by Smith1980 329 days ago by Smith1980 +28 / -0

I’m thinking about downloading Wing Commander since I really enjoyed it as a kid and I’ve always wanted to play the other parts. Also are there any games like wing commander that would be enjoyable?

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– Piroko 11 points 329 days ago +11 / -0

Having played almost everything in the genre, here's what I have to say about them...

  • X-Wing - The original wing commander clone that made wing commander irrelevant by doing it better. X-Wing is unapologetically hard and the only choices the game offers you are git gud or eat shit. What you will eventually learn is that the mooks that are attacking YOU are the least of your concerns.

  • TIE Fighter: For about half the game you don't have shields and take hits about as well as Mario, but it's alright because you're a veteran of the previous game's much more ruthless mission scripting. Any rebel not in an A-Wing has stormtrooper-grade aim.

  • TIE Fighter Defenders of the Empire: SO MANY EXPLOSIONS SO MANY EXPLOSIONS SO MANY EXPLOSIONS SO MANY EXPLOSIONS SO MANY EXPLOSIONS OMG THRAWN SO MANY EXPLOSIONS

  • X-Wing Alliance: Holy shit, we can afford enough polygons that fighters don't look like origami when viewed head on. Goodbye gouraud shading, hello really shitty low res bitmap textures. And let's squeeze in all the EU ships since we've got a whole CD to play with.

  • Descent FreeSpace: Despite sharing basically no assets, story, or code with Descent, we'll call it that because Freespace is trademarked. The GTF Apollo is shit, you're supposed to think it's shit, and it never gets better. Eventually you unlock the GTF Hercules and the Prometheus cannon, at which point the game has to give the shivans an invincible supership to stop your march of terror.

  • Independence War: WHEEEE I CAN DO THAT STARFURY THRUSTER TRICK FROM BABYLON 5. Too bad the game disc went to pressing with a catastrophic bug towards the end of the storyline that has a coin-toss chance of bricking your campaign that takes a save hack to fix.

  • I-War 2: Sold pretty well in the UK, but they're about the only market that got discs it; stateside it was on shelves for all of about a month. By the time I got my hands on a copy of it I'd already played the much better...

  • FreeSpace 2: The end of the genre. Seriously, after this there was nothing. The prometheus cannon from the first game was so good they have to contrive a reason to take it away for two thirds of the game. Unlike last time, nothing the shivans have is strictly speaking invincible; if you want to spend half an hour holding the trigger you WILL eventually kaser their juggernaut to death.

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– Sneak_King 3 points 329 days ago +3 / -0

I never finished FreeSpace 2. Got stuck on something near the end, don't remember what. I'm afraid to come back to it again, decades later. I want to continue remembering those graphics fondly.

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– ailurus 5 points 328 days ago +5 / -0

While they're not groundbreaking by any means, I personally think the graphics hold up fairly well. But, if you are concerned about that, nerds got you covered, man

Updated graphics and texture packs? yep.

New campaigns? yep.

Total conversion mods if you want those? yep

A dedicated Freespace 2 mod manager to make downloading and installing all the above simple? They've got that too.

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– Sneak_King 2 points 328 days ago +2 / -0

Oh shit. Why you gotta take my excuses away?

Thanks!

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– Smith1980 [S] 1 point 328 days ago +1 / -0

Cool!

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– Smith1980 [S] 1 point 328 days ago +1 / -0

Thanks!

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– arglide 6 points 329 days ago +6 / -0

Descent: Freespace 1 and 2 are both very similar to Wing Commander but a few years more recent. They were both well received.

Wing Commander: Privateer was definitely my favorite Wing Commander, but it's different from the main series. It was then followed by Freelancer, made by the same guy who did Wing Commander, before he was given infinite money lost his mind while making Star Citizen. Freelancer is from 2003, so slightly less "retro". Privateer and Freelancer are both more about making your own way in a big universe and less about being a soldier and playing a series of missions. If you want more player freedom at the expense of less plot and cutscenes, definitely check them out. The modern version of these games is egosoft's X3 and it's expansions, which I recommend if you aren't specifically looking for retro, but the more recent X: Rebirth and X4 are both trash.

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– PatrikStar24 5 points 329 days ago +5 / -0

Someone recommended TIE Fighter, I recommend the rest of the series as well. X-Wing for the Episode IV plot, X-Wing Alliance for huge modding opportunities, and X-Wing vs TIE Fighter to act as a long form tutorial for the other games (the keybinds are mostly the same across all 4 games). See their respective PCGW articles for any bug fixes you may need (DG VooDoo is a must for running them as they were intended).

Star Trek: Starfleet Academy is another one to try, being very much on the "simulator" side of the space sim spectrum, with things like power management, plotting nav coordinates to warp, and (in the campaign) multi choice dialogue.

Please get the GOG versions of these games, they are far more likely to work out of the box.

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– Smith1980 [S] 2 points 329 days ago +2 / -0

Thanks!

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– brimshae 4 points 329 days ago +4 / -0

Since we're talking Wing Commander, I'm gonna go a little out in the pasture and recommend Terra Nova: Strike Force Centari. It's somewhere in between an FPS and a mechsuit simulator, wide open maps for each mission, and terrible FMVs, which was the style at the time. Now, to take the dropship cost a nickel, and in those days nickels had pictures of bumble bees on them.

Memes aside, Wing Commanders FMV scenes made the Terra Nova devs feel they had to include FMV scenes, and I have fond memories of playing that game.

Protip: In some missions the Multipulsar sometimes has more range than the enemy AI, which means you can SLOWLY pick off an enemy at range if a mission is giving you a hard time.

If you really want something with futuristic fighters, try Fury^3, Hellbender, Terminal Velocity, all very similar games by the same devs, but you're in atmo.

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– Smith1980 [S] 3 points 329 days ago +3 / -0

Love the Simpsons reference. Thanks

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– Norenia 3 points 329 days ago +3 / -0

Can your PC run TIE Fighter? Or is it too advanced to run such old junk?

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– PatrikStar24 2 points 329 days ago +2 / -0

The GOG releases are patched up enough where that wouldn't be an issue, only requiring DG VooDoo for the Windows version if he wanted to run the game's 3D Acceleration mode. Any other bugs besides that would be covered by the PC Gaming Wiki entry of the game.

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– Smith1980 [S] 2 points 329 days ago +2 / -0

Oh yea. I assume it would be on Steam. If it can run Leisure Suit Larry it should be able to run that

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– Mpetey123 2 points 328 days ago +2 / -0

Here's a recommendation that is a little different but for a more casual game have you considered Flight Simulator? I remember a game called Ace Combat, that had multiple titles

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– Smith1980 [S] 2 points 328 days ago +2 / -0

Never thought of that but I remember playing A-10 Tank Killer and that was fun. My dad and brother used to play those flight simulator games

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– Mpetey123 2 points 328 days ago +2 / -0

A-10s are awesome

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– scruffyshoulders 1 point 328 days ago +1 / -0

I too am so lazy I can't be bothered to look anything up to help myself.

I thought I was on reddit when I saw this post. Nothing like waiting around for other people to solve your problems and find your entertainment. This kind of laziness is precisely how hallucinating AI grows in popularity, everyone demands instant answers for their lack of any effort. Pathetic kid, learn how to research your hobbies instead of being a pantywaste

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– Smith1980 [S] 1 point 328 days ago +1 / -0

I mean I know about Wing Commander and was going to dive back into it but it’s fun to ask for recommendations from people who are genuine fans with similar interests. Can open avenues for further nerd discussion.

Sorry if my post upset you. I just find it fun to talk about this stuff with fellow fans.

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– scruffyshoulders 1 point 328 days ago +1 / -0

You are bringing nothing to the table, asking everyone else to do the legwork for you. That's not a discussion, that's just selfishness

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– Smith1980 [S] 1 point 328 days ago +1 / -0

Duly noted. I’ll do better next time

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