We've also just sort of destroyed the landscape for even having normal social interactions in a lot of ways. Some of what people aren't learning used to be just passively absorbed because the world they inhabited naturally exposed them to it.
This is why some of these kids have been going and watching videos from the 1950's on how to talk to women, or how to date. That was literally the last time the information was passed down. The boomers passed nothing, so no generation after them passed anything either.
There's definitely some truth to this. The only thing my Dad really passed on to me were his practical maintenance skills and a little bit of financial wisdom. Absolutely nothing from either of my parents regarding how to find someone with which to form a family. It's like they were so focused on setting me up for financial success that they forgot to give me any advice on succeeding at life.
I remember reading a while back somewhere that some animals like cats need to be taught certain behaviors by observing others of their species, else they won't learn basic stuff like how to climb down from a tree. I think humans have something similar going on. People assume that you'll just automatically know how to make your way in the world and end up with a job and a family and all the rest of it, but that isn't actually the case. So now we're seeing entire generation who were never shown the ropes for some basic interactions and are now struggling to do stuff like form relationships. The arrival of various technologies is allowing people to continue ignoring the impending catastrophe as they convince themselves that stuff like social media is a substitute for interacting with real people. The whole thing is pernicious.
Some of what people aren't learning used to be just passively absorbed because the world they inhabited naturally exposed them to it.
This is a huge problem, most people don't need it explained to them because it's so obvious in a normal society; but we live in an insane, dystopic, extremist, totalitarian society and as a result none of that information is available to us. It's like when medieval historians have to explain that Europeans had a biphasic sleep cycle where most people get up in the middle of the night, do something, and go back to bed, and it was normal for all civilizations right up until the industrial revolution and regimented work-sleep hours. It was too ubiquitous to even explain because of the normalcy bias, and then we just... stopped having one.
Absolutely nothing from either of my parents regarding how to find someone with which to form a family. It's like they were so focused on setting me up for financial success that they forgot to give me any advice on succeeding at life.
Exactly. The difficult part was managing money. The family thing was just what everyone did and so you'd just figure it out like everyone else, and not to mention that the sexual revolution suggested that you need to be allowed to explore and learn anyway. In so doing, they also shirked their own responsibilities to set you up with their friends kids, which is actually a very normal and common pre-modern tradition that no one does anymore. You don't need an "official" town match-maker, but your social group helped do social filtering for you. Your married friends should actually be recommending people to you (or if your married vice-versa). That whole line of romance has been completely abandoned, and will take active measures to restore.
I think humans have something similar going on.
It's undeniable. It's why children are basically memory sponges that observe everything their parents do. They are rapid learning machines. Evolution doesn't assume children are literally born into a vacuum, but in fact the opposite. The enormity of differences in psychological outcomes is extreme. The monkey & doll experiments showed horrific psychological outcomes if monkey babies couldn't physically interact with mothers (including what appeared to be suicides, depression, sexlessness, and permanent asocial behavior). Not to mention that monkey that couldn't observe behavior couldn't recognize or replicate it, again causing major social issues if they ever tried to interact with socially adept monkeys.
So now we're seeing entire generation who were never shown the ropes for some basic interactions and are now struggling to do stuff like form relationships. The arrival of various technologies is allowing people to continue ignoring the impending catastrophe as they convince themselves that stuff like social media is a substitute for interacting with real people. The whole thing is pernicious.
WhatIfAltHist has been calling it a "Psychological Black Death" and I think he's right. Basically, the things that cause massive changes in civilization go literally unseen before the consequences hit, even though it's apparent now. His example is basically how pre-modern Europe was so fundamentally altered by the Black Death that it dropped the entire structure of Feudalism, and that the behaviors that Europeans had had were constantly contributing to the likelihood of a plague. When the plagues actually took place, it killed so many people that it forcibly changed behaviors even if they didn't know what Germ Theory was.
I think that Leftism and mass Industrialization have created a kind of psychic plague that is destroying birth rates, causing rampant suicides, and otherwise destroying the social structures of society in a way that normally isn't possible except in the most extreme historical events. The atomization, reification, and demoralization in the Industrial and Post-Industrial society have allowed Leftism to act literally as mental health disorder which is enabling the worst human behaviors while magnifying the problems. The inability for us to moralize and properly socialize from the loss of familial, social, and collective responsibility are literally killing us and could lead to the death of civilization.
I actually think it won't because we're accidentally grooming ourselves to re-start civilization from scratch in what I like to call "The Minecraft Era", where we recognize our atomization and then build our way out of it like an Open World Survivor Craft game. But I've gone on to long, so I'll save that hypothesis for later.
Absolutely nothing from either of my parents regarding how to find someone with which to form a family
Because it wasn't something that they needed to learn or be taught. It just happened, naturally.
I think about the circumstances that the past 3 generations of my family on my father's side got together and it makes me want to tear my hair out, because those circumstances no longer exist in any form whatsoever.
I saw a remark on twitter about how if they wanted to live like thier grandfather, they'd have to be a millionaire. Boy, did that stick with me...
We've also just sort of destroyed the landscape for even having normal social interactions in a lot of ways. Some of what people aren't learning used to be just passively absorbed because the world they inhabited naturally exposed them to it.
There's definitely some truth to this. The only thing my Dad really passed on to me were his practical maintenance skills and a little bit of financial wisdom. Absolutely nothing from either of my parents regarding how to find someone with which to form a family. It's like they were so focused on setting me up for financial success that they forgot to give me any advice on succeeding at life.
I remember reading a while back somewhere that some animals like cats need to be taught certain behaviors by observing others of their species, else they won't learn basic stuff like how to climb down from a tree. I think humans have something similar going on. People assume that you'll just automatically know how to make your way in the world and end up with a job and a family and all the rest of it, but that isn't actually the case. So now we're seeing entire generation who were never shown the ropes for some basic interactions and are now struggling to do stuff like form relationships. The arrival of various technologies is allowing people to continue ignoring the impending catastrophe as they convince themselves that stuff like social media is a substitute for interacting with real people. The whole thing is pernicious.
This is a huge problem, most people don't need it explained to them because it's so obvious in a normal society; but we live in an insane, dystopic, extremist, totalitarian society and as a result none of that information is available to us. It's like when medieval historians have to explain that Europeans had a biphasic sleep cycle where most people get up in the middle of the night, do something, and go back to bed, and it was normal for all civilizations right up until the industrial revolution and regimented work-sleep hours. It was too ubiquitous to even explain because of the normalcy bias, and then we just... stopped having one.
Exactly. The difficult part was managing money. The family thing was just what everyone did and so you'd just figure it out like everyone else, and not to mention that the sexual revolution suggested that you need to be allowed to explore and learn anyway. In so doing, they also shirked their own responsibilities to set you up with their friends kids, which is actually a very normal and common pre-modern tradition that no one does anymore. You don't need an "official" town match-maker, but your social group helped do social filtering for you. Your married friends should actually be recommending people to you (or if your married vice-versa). That whole line of romance has been completely abandoned, and will take active measures to restore.
It's undeniable. It's why children are basically memory sponges that observe everything their parents do. They are rapid learning machines. Evolution doesn't assume children are literally born into a vacuum, but in fact the opposite. The enormity of differences in psychological outcomes is extreme. The monkey & doll experiments showed horrific psychological outcomes if monkey babies couldn't physically interact with mothers (including what appeared to be suicides, depression, sexlessness, and permanent asocial behavior). Not to mention that monkey that couldn't observe behavior couldn't recognize or replicate it, again causing major social issues if they ever tried to interact with socially adept monkeys.
WhatIfAltHist has been calling it a "Psychological Black Death" and I think he's right. Basically, the things that cause massive changes in civilization go literally unseen before the consequences hit, even though it's apparent now. His example is basically how pre-modern Europe was so fundamentally altered by the Black Death that it dropped the entire structure of Feudalism, and that the behaviors that Europeans had had were constantly contributing to the likelihood of a plague. When the plagues actually took place, it killed so many people that it forcibly changed behaviors even if they didn't know what Germ Theory was.
I think that Leftism and mass Industrialization have created a kind of psychic plague that is destroying birth rates, causing rampant suicides, and otherwise destroying the social structures of society in a way that normally isn't possible except in the most extreme historical events. The atomization, reification, and demoralization in the Industrial and Post-Industrial society have allowed Leftism to act literally as mental health disorder which is enabling the worst human behaviors while magnifying the problems. The inability for us to moralize and properly socialize from the loss of familial, social, and collective responsibility are literally killing us and could lead to the death of civilization.
I actually think it won't because we're accidentally grooming ourselves to re-start civilization from scratch in what I like to call "The Minecraft Era", where we recognize our atomization and then build our way out of it like an Open World Survivor Craft game. But I've gone on to long, so I'll save that hypothesis for later.
Because it wasn't something that they needed to learn or be taught. It just happened, naturally.
I think about the circumstances that the past 3 generations of my family on my father's side got together and it makes me want to tear my hair out, because those circumstances no longer exist in any form whatsoever.
I saw a remark on twitter about how if they wanted to live like thier grandfather, they'd have to be a millionaire. Boy, did that stick with me...