were you in an utopian state of freedom of expression
No and now it got a little bit worse. You sound like a doomer that coincidentally aligns with woke goals. Hegelian dialect and all that
aren't there like five trillion porno sites that are still doing just fine?
Riddle me this, why is shit like BNWO still allowed? It coincidentally aligns with the woke narrative that blacks are heccing better than everyone else
Feminism is a tool, wokeness is a tool. Push some propaganda while getting rid of other... And feminists are encouraged to show racial solidarity due to globohomo values. Propaganda has to be implemented on multiple layers.
i think more than one thing can be detrimental at once and that we have enough braincells to focus on more than one thing.
Point is Orion Passmore walks free, he did oc and posted his shit on Roblox. Discord enabled him and the only way he stopped was because he got doxxed. This is a failure of the justice system. All in all, I don't think he cares some games got removed
You are doing the same lame moral posturing that wokes do without doing anything of substance. But your position is weirder, because you are implying we already lost to wokes and we got to celebrate this because it's all we can have. Fuck off. Again, we should put checks on payment processors, you are trying to deviate from that point while trying to make it all about porn, don't be a retard and use those braincells you've got to think about the consequences further down the line.
I'll humor you, you can be against porn, you can even be happy those games were removed without them having any chance of coming back, but can we at least agree this is a horrible overreach with worrying ramifications?
Edit: wtf, that's a real Game? You've some explaining to do
wtf, that's a real Game? You've some explaining to do
well.. yeah. there's like 20 of those from that one franchise. what's there to explain? i looked at the steamdb removed games stuff to see what all the fuss was about.
you are implying we already lost ... we should put checks ...
i think the critical misunderstanding here is that we fundamentally understand our situation differently. i'm of the "no political solution" opinion, because i've studied the decades leading up to where we are now and have seen how censorship, genocide, and political mass-propaganda existed quite a bit before the words "payment processor" were even put together.
i've been deplatformed/harassed myself for having right-wing views, i was there when Domina got booted off Steam because the changelogs told people not to wear masks, i personally know (both of, and personally) several indie devs who seem like they want to be right-wing but end up having to allow pornsick children discuss fetishes in their communities for fear of backlash, i've seen communities of all kinds be outright taken over via admin coup because the hosting services are all left-friendly (i.e. Discord, which will ban you for bad words but not the leftie doxxing you), etcetera...
to me, the notion that anything for me has gotten worse because some sex games got removed is just laughable, and i say that not to mock you for thinking otherwise but just to explain my reaction.
we, and i think i can include you here because you're probably not a furry leftie or anything like that, are probably objectively not in any worse position just because sex games are on the chopping block. here's why, exactly:
porno games do not in any way, shape, or form, further our cause. they're just not a loss. we don't stand for Al Goldstein, we don't stand for PornHub, we don't stand for furry inflation vore, we don't stand for incest. am i right, or am i wrong?
porno games can't reasonably be included under the umbrella policy of "free speech" anymore than paki rape gangs can be included under the umbrella policy of "freedom of expression". porn is so harmful that even normie studies agree. you have Joe Scientist studying dopamine deficiencies, you have Bob Anthropologist studying hypergamy as a result of porn addictions, you have John Right-Winger who mocks furries online, you have Reverend Whoever calling it self-abuse... there isn't a type of studied, informed person on Earth who disagrees that porn is harmful.
even though feminists as a whole are a crazed, harmful, insane jewish creation, on this topic even they have a point that porn is abusive to women. i would say a woman tricked by a pornographer with a "modelling" job to get gangraped by a bunch of browns and get a bunch of STDs is a victim of abuse, no matter how much of a "dumb whore who deserved it" you think she is.
it doesn't mark any increase of power from them to actually deplatform us. we are already social pariahs. any right-wing game that openly mocks leftism, or tells you who the first soviets were, or debunks any leftist state religion, anything that's not just safe edgy like "haha, commies don't know economy" is already banned by Steam or any other platform without Visa having to lift a finger. again: we are at the bottom of the slope regarding political censorship. we already have to be sneaky, devious, and cunning to get any message out there - just look at how hidden away we have to be on this website, and it wasn't Mastercard who made it so.
this isn't an admission of defeat, but it has to be acknowledged because anything else is delusion that will get in our way. i already have plans for how to get good messages up on Steam through my game, but this included having to be subtle and tactful before porn games were banned, and it'll include it after they're banned too. let me reiterate: as a censored right-wing content creator who wants to publish on Steam, literally nothing has changed for me. if you won't believe my word or somehow take it as dooming, what could possibly convince you?
No and now it got a little bit worse. You sound like a doomer that coincidentally aligns with woke goals. Hegelian dialect and all that
Riddle me this, why is shit like BNWO still allowed? It coincidentally aligns with the woke narrative that blacks are heccing better than everyone else
Feminism is a tool, wokeness is a tool. Push some propaganda while getting rid of other... And feminists are encouraged to show racial solidarity due to globohomo values. Propaganda has to be implemented on multiple layers.
Point is Orion Passmore walks free, he did oc and posted his shit on Roblox. Discord enabled him and the only way he stopped was because he got doxxed. This is a failure of the justice system. All in all, I don't think he cares some games got removed
You are doing the same lame moral posturing that wokes do without doing anything of substance. But your position is weirder, because you are implying we already lost to wokes and we got to celebrate this because it's all we can have. Fuck off. Again, we should put checks on payment processors, you are trying to deviate from that point while trying to make it all about porn, don't be a retard and use those braincells you've got to think about the consequences further down the line.
I'll humor you, you can be against porn, you can even be happy those games were removed without them having any chance of coming back, but can we at least agree this is a horrible overreach with worrying ramifications?
Edit: wtf, that's a real Game? You've some explaining to do
well.. yeah. there's like 20 of those from that one franchise. what's there to explain? i looked at the steamdb removed games stuff to see what all the fuss was about.
i think the critical misunderstanding here is that we fundamentally understand our situation differently. i'm of the "no political solution" opinion, because i've studied the decades leading up to where we are now and have seen how censorship, genocide, and political mass-propaganda existed quite a bit before the words "payment processor" were even put together.
i've been deplatformed/harassed myself for having right-wing views, i was there when Domina got booted off Steam because the changelogs told people not to wear masks, i personally know (both of, and personally) several indie devs who seem like they want to be right-wing but end up having to allow pornsick children discuss fetishes in their communities for fear of backlash, i've seen communities of all kinds be outright taken over via admin coup because the hosting services are all left-friendly (i.e. Discord, which will ban you for bad words but not the leftie doxxing you), etcetera...
to me, the notion that anything for me has gotten worse because some sex games got removed is just laughable, and i say that not to mock you for thinking otherwise but just to explain my reaction.
we, and i think i can include you here because you're probably not a furry leftie or anything like that, are probably objectively not in any worse position just because sex games are on the chopping block. here's why, exactly:
porno games do not in any way, shape, or form, further our cause. they're just not a loss. we don't stand for Al Goldstein, we don't stand for PornHub, we don't stand for furry inflation vore, we don't stand for incest. am i right, or am i wrong?
porno games can't reasonably be included under the umbrella policy of "free speech" anymore than paki rape gangs can be included under the umbrella policy of "freedom of expression". porn is so harmful that even normie studies agree. you have Joe Scientist studying dopamine deficiencies, you have Bob Anthropologist studying hypergamy as a result of porn addictions, you have John Right-Winger who mocks furries online, you have Reverend Whoever calling it self-abuse... there isn't a type of studied, informed person on Earth who disagrees that porn is harmful.
even though feminists as a whole are a crazed, harmful, insane jewish creation, on this topic even they have a point that porn is abusive to women. i would say a woman tricked by a pornographer with a "modelling" job to get gangraped by a bunch of browns and get a bunch of STDs is a victim of abuse, no matter how much of a "dumb whore who deserved it" you think she is.
again, we are talking about games like My Own Dedicated Weak Pussy Cow Vtuber's Confinement and Training! Choke-Clamping Deep-Digging RIP to her Life Masochistic-Orgasm!- (cheeky big boob faphole understood her position. this isn't the town plumber arguing for artisan rights at the town court, this is demonic shit that wants people to sell their souls to it for some fleeting physical pleasure.
this isn't an admission of defeat, but it has to be acknowledged because anything else is delusion that will get in our way. i already have plans for how to get good messages up on Steam through my game, but this included having to be subtle and tactful before porn games were banned, and it'll include it after they're banned too. let me reiterate: as a censored right-wing content creator who wants to publish on Steam, literally nothing has changed for me. if you won't believe my word or somehow take it as dooming, what could possibly convince you?