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even Tulsi Gabbard, the anti-war token Trump picked to signal he would be anti-war, is walking back her own intelligence that said Iran was not making a nuke. Israel has a tight grip. (twitter.com)
posted 347 days ago by ApparentlyImAHeretic 347 days ago by ApparentlyImAHeretic +99 / -0
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– Kienan 12 points 346 days ago +12 / -0

RKF is cracking down on artificial dyes (and, for some fucking weird-ass reason antisemitism), so I guess we got that, at least.

And, if I'm going to put a positive spin on things, Trump has been fucking nailing it on the border, to his credit. Legit win there.

But, yeah. Shame on Tulsi, shame on Trump, shame on Bongino, Patel, and all these fuckers. It's treason.

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– Hellsbells00 2 points 346 days ago +2 / -0

You're usually somewhat reasonable, but your freakout over a zero boots on the ground takeout of sites that would lead to Iran, the country ran by people that consistently clamor for the death of America, getting a nuke is a bad show.

This kind of thing is exactly the surgical strike we should be doing against nutjobs trying to get nukes, regardless of any other nation. It's what we'd do to the Norks, it's what we should do if Cuba tries it again, it's what we should do if Mexico tries it - explicitly hostile powers that would ABSOLUTELY use nuclear weapons (because they're run by religious nuts whose pedo priest GLORIFIES SUICIDAL WAR) SHOULD NEVER GET NUKES.

Inb4 "but jeeeeeeewwwwws" Fuck Israel trying to drag us into shit, and we shouldn't let them have nukes either,

But REGARDLESS of Israel existing, no sane leader in the current world in Trump's position would tolerate nuclear proliferation to nutjobs like the Iranians. We shouldn't even be letting theoretical allied countries be getting nukes, let alone those fucks.

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– Euphemism 6 points 346 days ago +6 / -0

Iranians have been the much more adult group in the room in the M.E over the last little while.

Not that how you charactorise them is untrue, its just that Israel has been SOOO much worse - and that is the elephant in the room.

Yes, Iran is horrible, mean, vile and looking for world domination.

But...

Israel is horrible, mean, vile and has been using the worlds super power clearing the way for world domination.

Americans can't stop Iran from being Iran, but we can stop Israel from using us like its barbarian shocktroops.

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– current_horror 5 points 346 days ago +5 / -0

Exactly. Everyone in that region sucks ass, but we’re only going to war on behalf of one of them. It’s completely rational that we focus on that relationship is the greatest immediate problem.

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– Hellsbells00 2 points 346 days ago +2 / -0

We don't need to stop Iran from being Iran until they throw missiles at us. We DO need to stop them from getting nukes, because we would be required to stop Iran from being Iran, permanently, because they would use them. And that would cost a lot more than simply denying them nuclear capacity with a few targeted bombs.

An ounce of prevention saves a pound of cure. If they and Israel start shooting at eachother conventionally, we don't need to do anything.

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– Euphemism 1 point 346 days ago +1 / -0

We're defenseless against those missiles, and Israel turned into a crybaby the second they started to land.

IF Iran was 1/10th the country we've been told they would have used them in an aggressive manner, not just after they've been attacked. Since they've shown they're not willing to start shit for no reason - where does this "we DO need to stop them" come from?

Again, even if they did have them - they're still no threat to the US. That is simply a fact, further backed up by Iran's own actions in not starting shit.

The same can not be said about Israel, right? Again, IF the logic against Iran was correct, it is infinitely more correct in regards to Israel, thankfully for all, there is no logic in the notion.

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