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Western animation really has detoriated. I feel like if anime wasn't a thing, the artstyle of Western animation would have kept detoriating, but now Western animation has to copy the style of anime to compete. . its bizarre when "conservative" cartoons then chose to copy the CalArts style. (media.kotakuinaction2.win)
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– Cyberguy64 15 points 1 year ago +15 / -0

Why do people keep putting Gumball with the "Calarts" crap? It only takes ten seconds of watching the show to see it's a complete powerhouse of unique and creative animation.

Really animation is just dying in general these days. Between every form of media becoming the same, homogenized, "safe and relatable" mush, the inescapable stigma that "Animation is just for stupid kids, so don't bother making something worthwhile," and the unfortunate reality that it's time-consuming and expensive, there's no incentive for our corporate overlords to make anything new at all, let alone anything good....

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– MrHeretic 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

I don't know if I can badmouth AI here, but I fear that it's going to continue this trend and general decline even if I will say it's had it's upsides and I have had a lot of fun making pictures using SD and other tools.

I think that Gumball itself is usually added in because the main character is drawn that way, even if the show goes above and beyond with the number of art styles it uses.

Hell, I think the only real western animated show I have even considered watching in recent years is Miraculous Ladybug, and even then a portion of that is driven by curiosity as to how much further Thomas Astruc or someone else will screw it up (or not). I do like the movie, though, and might recommend it to people who haven't completely written off superhero shows. There might be a few others I have interest in like Primal, but those are far and few between.

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– DemolitionsPanda 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

AI Tools are a Pandora's box, because it is so powerful. It empowers people, which means that it makes it easier to do whatever they wanted to do.

Most of the time, what they wanted to do is work just hard enough to not get fired. This means they can be even lazier than before. I've seen teachers use AI tools for lesson planning, students use AI for writing their homework and the teachers use it for marking.

At the moment, big money from the top end of town is influencing the market. People are not getting to choose merit through the market. Disney can make flop after shitty flop because they don't care if they loose 300 million. Ubisoft and EA can make terrible games because they don't care if they sell or not.

Hopefully the shake-out of new technology will meet the accountability of a real market an we can have new companies making new entertainment and actually getting paid for it. We have seen some new independent projects launch pilots on YouTube, and then get funding.

Things are going to get a lot worse before they get better.

For the record, I don't hate AI; but I think that most people are selfish, willfully ignorant morons, who are empowered by AI tools. Outsourcing actual thinking to something (corporate managed) that has less neurons than a garden slug has the potential to be the worst thing that ever happened to civilization.

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– throwawayaccount2037 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

and the unfortunate reality that it's time-consuming and expensive, there's no incentive for our corporate overlords to make anything new at all, let alone anything good....

The sad thing is, with today's tools it doesn't have to be time-consuming and expensive. I think this is the most frustrating part about it. Ark System Works showed us we can get hand-animated-quality cel-shading (made in UE4 no less) that looks like it was done in 2D, but done in 3D. Cost-effective and looks amazing, like this: https://youtu.be/mmTnuuXnw9A?t=7

We also see that with a mixture of 3D cel-shading tools, superimposition, and AI we can get art-styles that previously were only used as promotional matte designs or posters, but actually animated, like here: https://youtu.be/rhNZe_TjN9E

There's a wealth of opportunities for creators to get creative, but you are right that most big studios only want to push Leftist slop with "The Message", and anything else they simply do not care about. The indie animation scene on YouTube is flourishing with a lot of great stuff, showing that with a bit of ingenuity and the right mind-set it's possible to pull off some great stuff on a low budget.

EDIT: Just wanted to add, with the ability of using mixed media tools, you can also do some really creative stuff with today's software at very low costs. One guy made this in his spare time: https://youtu.be/_fy4StK4TBs

Just think what we could get if a major studio just put a little time and effort into backing someone like that?

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– LesboPregnancyScare 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

because the animation is Cal Arts, retard. Its ok if you like it, but its still cheap Cal Arts schlock

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