Never understood the vtuber thing but I had leaflit come up on my feed and she seems pretty cool so I subbed and I know kirsche does a lot of political stuff. I'm curious if you guys think the based vtubers are legit based though, or if they just see a good way to make money, telling guys what they want to hear?
Some are based, some present a product, some are... other.
Pippa's rants sounds to me like genuine paranoid schizo energy at times. She on occasion falls into rants about feds and plots about trafficking her specifically and sleeper agents lying in wait, and her coworkers/co-streamers very clearly are trying to reign her back in when it happens: if it's planned, they're definitely not in on it, despite being part of the same agency, just hired after it was successful as opposed to her very early hiring status. Her "based"ness is likely a side-effect of her paranoia about governmental (foreign and domestic) interference in everyday life. Very pleasant rabbit as long as nothing startles or triggers her. Very much like a real rabbit in that sense.
Kirche has been doing no-no talks for a long time. She's genuine. She does talks on BRIDGE, on Soros' interference on cultural movements, how DEI works to destabilize societies while working alongside fed resources, things far beyond what a "safe" money-making plan would entail. She has lost income and sponsors over her views, it's likely a net-loss position for her, when she could easily dial it back a smidge for personal profit.
But a lot of them are doing it for image. Several that do "based" reactions/whatnot had come out in support of the assassins against Trump during the election cycle, in example, which should be a clear indicator of their stances which likely haven't significantly changed in 9 months. You can't maintain character 24/7 very easily, and a lot of them self-report on Bluesky or X... In fact, the mere fact they have BlueSky is a bit of a warning sign of a self-report.
Ha, you posted pretty much what I going to. Pippa is still my oshi but Kirsche gives no fucks and has the receipts when she does talk. I Just cant stand her accent, lol.
But a lot of them are doing it for image. Several that do "based" reactions/whatnot had come out in support of the assassins against Trump during the election cycle, in example, which should be a clear indicator of their stances which likely haven't significantly changed in 9 months. You can't maintain character 24/7 very easily, and a lot of them self-report on Bluesky or X... In fact, the mere fact they have BlueSky is a bit of a warning sign of a self-report.
I view them as grifters, the reason they come off as more based and reasonable I believe to be a result of many of them being company owned and having PR guys telling them how to be likable and not come off as insane like typical women do when they don't have a man telling them what to say.
Yeah that's my theory, though I don't claim to be an expert on them by any stretch. I know some are independent (like the two I mentioned) but even then I wonder if they just realized it's just good business. I will say, some of womens retardedness in politics comes from the pressure to fit in and not go against the crowd, so maybe OPs theory has merit too.
if they just see a good way to make money, telling guys what they want to hear?
I am sure it counts for some of them, but I dont buy that it is most of them. If it was just a grift, they would back down the second the mob came because that would be the better way to keep making money. Most of them have responded by digging in and doubling down, which is not the response of grifters in general.
Never understood the vtuber thing but I had leaflit come up on my feed and she seems pretty cool so I subbed and I know kirsche does a lot of political stuff. I'm curious if you guys think the based vtubers are legit based though, or if they just see a good way to make money, telling guys what they want to hear?
Some are based, some present a product, some are... other.
Pippa's rants sounds to me like genuine paranoid schizo energy at times. She on occasion falls into rants about feds and plots about trafficking her specifically and sleeper agents lying in wait, and her coworkers/co-streamers very clearly are trying to reign her back in when it happens: if it's planned, they're definitely not in on it, despite being part of the same agency, just hired after it was successful as opposed to her very early hiring status. Her "based"ness is likely a side-effect of her paranoia about governmental (foreign and domestic) interference in everyday life. Very pleasant rabbit as long as nothing startles or triggers her. Very much like a real rabbit in that sense.
Kirche has been doing no-no talks for a long time. She's genuine. She does talks on BRIDGE, on Soros' interference on cultural movements, how DEI works to destabilize societies while working alongside fed resources, things far beyond what a "safe" money-making plan would entail. She has lost income and sponsors over her views, it's likely a net-loss position for her, when she could easily dial it back a smidge for personal profit.
But a lot of them are doing it for image. Several that do "based" reactions/whatnot had come out in support of the assassins against Trump during the election cycle, in example, which should be a clear indicator of their stances which likely haven't significantly changed in 9 months. You can't maintain character 24/7 very easily, and a lot of them self-report on Bluesky or X... In fact, the mere fact they have BlueSky is a bit of a warning sign of a self-report.
Ha, you posted pretty much what I going to. Pippa is still my oshi but Kirsche gives no fucks and has the receipts when she does talk. I Just cant stand her accent, lol.
Which ones?
I view them as grifters, the reason they come off as more based and reasonable I believe to be a result of many of them being company owned and having PR guys telling them how to be likable and not come off as insane like typical women do when they don't have a man telling them what to say.
Yeah that's my theory, though I don't claim to be an expert on them by any stretch. I know some are independent (like the two I mentioned) but even then I wonder if they just realized it's just good business. I will say, some of womens retardedness in politics comes from the pressure to fit in and not go against the crowd, so maybe OPs theory has merit too.
I am sure it counts for some of them, but I dont buy that it is most of them. If it was just a grift, they would back down the second the mob came because that would be the better way to keep making money. Most of them have responded by digging in and doubling down, which is not the response of grifters in general.