Always amazes me when people act like the Internet is real and give any weight or thought to random anonymous comments. It happens on all sides, even by users here who should know better. Those of us who grew up on the uncensored internet before social media knew it was fake (but slightly less gay at the time) and it's exhausting to keep seeing not only boomers but younger people repeatedly clutch their pearls at trolls as if they were having a conversation with a real human at the supermarket. The groyper army is a great example. They don't just amplify Fuentes but also post crazy violent cartoons to troll idiots like Jordan Petersen and give his silly NGO examples of why online anonymity is bad. The other obvious example is Gamergate, aka the "right-wing misogynistic hate campaign" because anonymous users - probably the fucking journos themselves - posted insane shit for screenshots. People need to understand anons are just random chaos agents. They represent nothing and provide no insight into reality and politics. That applies to you and me too. We're basically ephemeral gamertags. What we say is noise. Maybe we'll occasionally spark an idea in a more important person higher up the chain and someone does something, but in the end only real people with real identities having conversations matters and this will all be graffiti on the walls of Pompeii.
because anonymous users - probably the fucking journos themselves - posted insane shit for screenshots
Reminder to everyone that good ol' Anita Sarkeesian, probably the reason why journos were set and ready to start GG when ZQ's shit dropped, was almost certainly confirmed to have sent the famous "death threats" that started her career to herself.
Or that one journo early on that admitted to saving and uploading CP to try and get 8chan(?) shut down.
We're basically ephemeral gamertags. What we say is noise.
Almost everyone online could log off right now, and by next month not even be noticed that they left. The rare few might reach Imp level where people remember them for the memes. But otherwise its all nonsense that shouldn't be taken seriously.
But instead people invented shit like upvotes and people take text on a screen super fucking seriously.
People need to understand anons are just random chaos agents. They represent nothing and provide no insight into reality and politics. That applies to you and me too. We're basically ephemeral gamertags. What we say is noise. Maybe we'll occasionally spark an idea in a more important person higher up the chain and someone does something, but in the end only real people with real identities having conversations matters and this will all be graffiti on the walls of Pompeii.
There is a lot of truth to this, but, you know, Gamergate. Trump. 4chan meme incubator. No one anonymous poster is important, but the scene is consequential.
That's true. We are "the keyboard warriors" after all. I'm just arguing you can't say a trend reflects reality until it translates to real actions by people who aren't anonymous and who could face consequences for saying something.
Always amazes me when people act like the Internet is real and give any weight or thought to random anonymous comments. It happens on all sides, even by users here who should know better. Those of us who grew up on the uncensored internet before social media knew it was fake (but slightly less gay at the time) and it's exhausting to keep seeing not only boomers but younger people repeatedly clutch their pearls at trolls as if they were having a conversation with a real human at the supermarket. The groyper army is a great example. They don't just amplify Fuentes but also post crazy violent cartoons to troll idiots like Jordan Petersen and give his silly NGO examples of why online anonymity is bad. The other obvious example is Gamergate, aka the "right-wing misogynistic hate campaign" because anonymous users - probably the fucking journos themselves - posted insane shit for screenshots. People need to understand anons are just random chaos agents. They represent nothing and provide no insight into reality and politics. That applies to you and me too. We're basically ephemeral gamertags. What we say is noise. Maybe we'll occasionally spark an idea in a more important person higher up the chain and someone does something, but in the end only real people with real identities having conversations matters and this will all be graffiti on the walls of Pompeii.
Reminder to everyone that good ol' Anita Sarkeesian, probably the reason why journos were set and ready to start GG when ZQ's shit dropped, was almost certainly confirmed to have sent the famous "death threats" that started her career to herself.
Or that one journo early on that admitted to saving and uploading CP to try and get 8chan(?) shut down.
Almost everyone online could log off right now, and by next month not even be noticed that they left. The rare few might reach Imp level where people remember them for the memes. But otherwise its all nonsense that shouldn't be taken seriously.
But instead people invented shit like upvotes and people take text on a screen super fucking seriously.
Underrated comment deserving of its own post.
I would add in the new AI age, making fraudulent provocations has never been easier.
There is a lot of truth to this, but, you know, Gamergate. Trump. 4chan meme incubator. No one anonymous poster is important, but the scene is consequential.
That's true. We are "the keyboard warriors" after all. I'm just arguing you can't say a trend reflects reality until it translates to real actions by people who aren't anonymous and who could face consequences for saying something.