The overwhelming majority of ww2 vets are dead. Combat vets are likelier than non-combat vets to die younger. And even if they weren't, combat vets are overwhelmingly right wing.
Its 2025 (current year). The literal youngest possible WW2 vet alive is nearly 90 years old, a hard age to reach even under the best circumstances of life.
The amount left is so dwindlingly small that you can't reliable assume any deviations from the mean because the sample size is just that puny.
Its hard to remember, with how much the media and institutions talk about it like it was just yesterday and we are "still healing" but we are only a scant few years from it starting a century ago. Heck we aren't even that far from the end being nearly a century ago.
Its why we keep seeing stories crop up about faked WW2 vets and Holocaust survivors, because its literally a demographic about to approach extinction but the Powers That Be don't want to lose the hyped up social pressure they've taught people to give that title.
What kills me is that the propaganda has done nothing to help the understanding of WW2 in anyway. So, instead people operating off of low-information institutional disinformation, they start operating off of low-information self-made misinformation, or low-information counter-narrative disinformation. The institutions have behaved so egregiously that we have to kind of start from scratch with people to go over the basics. And when we're talking about normie a-political a-historical types, it's a real slog because they don't even know where to begin.
I remember taking my friends to go see Dunkirk when it came out in theaters, but they had never heard of the battle. They are into anime and fantasy, they had no reference point to WW2 outside of highschool history classes. I basically had to give them an ultra-simplified run-down on the when, who, and why of anything that was going on. Now, how are the tens of millions of Americans who are just like them going to understand WW2, when they know the institutions can't be trusted. Even if they hear correct information, it might be out-of-context and they might misconstrue what it means. Maybe they think something like: the USSR was always on the allied side.
I actually do understand the complaint of some of these Neo-Liberals complaining about anti-intellectualism and anti-institutionalism... but GOOD LORD: IT'S YOUR FAULT YOU DUMB BASTARDS! If you weren't dedicating the institutions to a full-spectrum propaganda war, they wouldn't be so anti-institutional, and they wouldn't fall for RandomFucko619's YouTube video on how Bulgaria will be a Super Power in 2020. And since I do know what they're lying about, I'd rather see the institutions raized to the fucking ground, rather than reform them because RandomFucko619 isn't saying anything crazier than you are!
The Ukraine chicken-hawks get to me because they started saying shit like "we should do to Putin what we did to Hitler"... "What? Firebomb every major city in Russia and murder 15 million people?" The aggressiveness in the stupidity makes me lose my mind, and the faggot "I fucking love history!" historians are writing books to profit off of the disinformation in exactly the same way as RandomFucko619 is... except they have a PhD.
Now, how are the tens of millions of Americans who are just like them going to understand WW2, when they know the institutions can't be trusted.
Its a real issue because all the "neutral" sources are actually heavily painted towards the common consensus and narrative, to a point where its nearly impossible to even find anything remotely outside of that. You get the high school simplified version, and the longer detailed version that is a lot of boring details only really interesting to mega-autists who enjoy tank specifications and playing Risk.
So the only way to receive information outside of it is to listen to people who have thier own axe to grind, and are just as likely to be painting it to their flavor. But it is new information, that is usually completely factual once you verify it, so you begin to question everything and trust them more.
What makes it extra dumb is that if you really tried to lay out a neutral-as-possible understanding of the war, you'd not have a position that was too far away from what the Mainstream wants. It would be super easy to say "some Jewish elite were being fucked up in Weimar and it upset a lot of people" and then its not hard to follow that with "but that doesn't justify the Holocaust and the levels Nazis went to regarding it." And numerous other spots where the two sides differ heavily in what they are saying. The majority of the time, most people would end up on the side of the mainstream anyway.
But instead it was a full circled wagon. Weimar doesn't get mentioned in the slightest so the Nazis just woke up and decided to be evil just cuz. Which makes it super easy for the opposite side to point out reasons and crumble the entire tower of propaganda. Which creates the super easy hole of "what else were they lying about?!?!" to be filled with all sorts of anything.
I actually do understand the complaint
I get what you are saying, but their complaint isn't actually their complaint. Their complaint is that people don't just reflexively trust "the experts" (academics, talking heads and anyone on the approved list). Otherwise they are just as anti- as the people they decry in these ways.
we should do to Putin what we did to Hitler
I still cannot even comprehend why I'm supposed to hate Putin/Russia. Like, I get why people did in the Cold War and guys who lived through that can't let it go. But otherwise he/they have done very little different or worse than what our "allies" do. And unlike them, he/they at least back up their shit with actual actions on their own instead of demanding the US do it for them.
Yet he/they are spoken of like its just the natural state of things that you will hate and despise. And thereby they can casually talk about deporting, genocide, and invading like they aren't even real people.
The majority of the time, most people would end up on the side of the mainstream anyway.
I guess I'm grateful that my friends allow me to teach them the history they don't know, because they trust me to separate out known facts, and then my opinions.
(Believe it or not, when I'm genuinely trying to teach someone a subject I come off much less opinionated than I do here.)
Their complaint is that people don't just reflexively trust "the experts"
Which is weird because so much of their youth was spent condemning the knowledge of the institutions which they undermined, destroyed, and then replaced with their own bullshit.
I still cannot even comprehend why I'm supposed to hate Putin/Russia
In fairness, he did not defensively invade Ukraine. Since the coup, he's been attempting to divide out the geo-strategic, or politically useful, portions of Ukraine that he can.
The Resistance : Somehow think they are the underdog despite adopting the policies of international globalists, megacorporations, government agencies, nearly all political parties, the education system, the mainstream media.
Don't worry though, the leftists stealing the identity of a dead WWII veteran did it to ''start a conversation'', so it's still good.
reeee my deranged vegan faggot dictator would have been good because the people he ruled over and destroyed shared superficial similarities with me
Hitler started WW2 and attacked a bunch of WHITE nations. Because "white" is an American conglomeration of fifty different backgrounds and Hitler didn't give a shit about them.
And yes, your leftism is still leftism. The globalists would love another hitler-type faggot to come to power. Look what happened post WW2. They got rid of the nationalism, and kept the socialism. The germans as a nation have been dead since ww1.
have every jew boycott the entire country for years
Use their influence in NYC to get america to do the same or at least push for it
have jews start committing terrorist attacks in germany
start brutally murdering, raping and otherwise abusing ethnic germans on the polish border
OY VEY WHY WOULD YOU INVADE POLAND
The globalists would love another hitler-type faggot to come to power.
which is why they shit their pants whenever his name is mentioned and anything even slightly resembling his ideology gets any attention
Look what happened post WW2.
yes, what did happen? innocent little poland for which the UK and France declared war against germany ended up swallowed whole by communism, as did half of europe. It could have been a short war to settle border conflict and crimes against ethnic germans there if (((Churchill))) didn't force the war on Hitler. If you need proof that he wasn't some maniac bent on world conquest, look only at the 17 different peace offers he sent to britain. Look at how he sent Hess to discuss terms in scotland and the british promptly had him rot in prison until he was murdered in 1987. They had him in solitary for 46 years. Why? Look at how he let the british escape at dunkirk. Look at how he didn't force the german language on occupied france. On and on and on.
reeee my deranged vegan faggot dictator would have been good because the people he ruled over and destroyed shared superficial similarities with me
I'm not even one of our resident Hitler Lovers, but you guys spinning out will never not be hilarious.
Hitler was "vegetarian," and apparently not even that. He was the kind of vegetarian who ate chicken and fish on occasion. Checkmate, Hitler hater! Get wrecked!
No, but seriously. He wasn't a vegan. And considering some of his other flaws, it's a weird and superficial attack, even if it was true.
Hitler started WW2 and attacked a bunch of WHITE nations.
It's complicated. I've said before I thought everyone in WW2 was an asshole. Saying Hitler exclusively started it ignores a lot of context though, and is like saying Saddam started Desert Storm. Saddam and Hitler were both given the greenlight be the people who later condemned them.
Because "white" is an American conglomeration of fifty different backgrounds and Hitler didn't give a shit about them.
Correct. And something a lot of pro-white people who go all in on Hitler miss, and definitely deserve criticism for. Hitler was not pro "white." He was primarily pro-German, and pro-European...as long as the aforementioned Germans were sitting pretty in such a scenario.
That said, "white" is currently a meaningful distinction, since so many people are staunchly against "whiteness." But, yeah, doesn't excuse people who are trying to claim Hitler as some sort of "white" savior.
The globalists would love another hitler-type faggot to come to power. Look what happened post WW2. They got rid of the nationalism, and kept the socialism.
The globalists love any conflict they can utilize. All it takes is for them to come out on top. They'd love a new Hitler, new socialists, communists, fascists, Islamists, whatever...as long as they win and get to determine the Post Evil Badguy Paradigm.
The globalists love any conflict they can utilize. All it takes is for them to come out on top. They'd love a new Hitler, new socialists, communists, fascists, Islamists, whatever...as long as they win and get to determine the Post Evil Badguy Paradigm.
Exactly my point. They don't care about which dogma they need to use, only that an authorirarian centralized power structure is in place. Pretty much every nefarious group ends up being run by sociopaths, who are exceptionally skilled at manipulating people. Any centralized authoritarian structure is the easiest thing for them to corrupt.
The real demon isn't niggers or jews or whites, it's sociopaths.
As to your point - yeah anti-white faggots are gay race commies and need to be destroyed for human society to be preserved. I'm not denying that "white" is a category people use, I do find it completely worthless as a determining factor on the worth of an individual. There's more than enough worthless whites out there.
Frankly, the pretend white nationalist nonsense isn't discriminatory enough - because most of the goons going for it are also trash with no value to anyone, that want to pretend being white is somehow inherently valuable. If anything it should be more embarassing that they're deranged anti-american degenerates.
I think blaming Hitler for WW2 is more accurate than laying sole blame on Zelensky for the Ukrainian shitshow, and I still hate that goblin for his part in it. You won't find many here pretending what he did wasn't hostile to his own countrymen.
If Hitler was half as based as any of the fake neonazi forum sliders pretend, he would have talked the allies into crushing the soviets together instead of allying with Stalin. But he wasn't actually trying to improve the world, he was just a homicidal goblin with delusions of grandeur. Imagine surviving WW1 and sending your country into that again. What a fucking subhuman he was.
Needless to say, really disgusting if true.
Here's the thread on the event.
And video timestamp where Sargon talks about it.
That is literally stolen valor if true. May even be prosecutable, looks like pretending to have a service record for gain is criminal in the UK.
supposedly there's another guy with the same name who did buildings and such, but it is, at best, a lie by implication...
They don't even have to do this. I'm sure there's a WW2 vet out there that is a lefty. There's got to be one.
The overwhelming majority of ww2 vets are dead. Combat vets are likelier than non-combat vets to die younger. And even if they weren't, combat vets are overwhelmingly right wing.
True.
Its 2025 (current year). The literal youngest possible WW2 vet alive is nearly 90 years old, a hard age to reach even under the best circumstances of life.
The amount left is so dwindlingly small that you can't reliable assume any deviations from the mean because the sample size is just that puny.
Fair point.
Its hard to remember, with how much the media and institutions talk about it like it was just yesterday and we are "still healing" but we are only a scant few years from it starting a century ago. Heck we aren't even that far from the end being nearly a century ago.
Its why we keep seeing stories crop up about faked WW2 vets and Holocaust survivors, because its literally a demographic about to approach extinction but the Powers That Be don't want to lose the hyped up social pressure they've taught people to give that title.
What kills me is that the propaganda has done nothing to help the understanding of WW2 in anyway. So, instead people operating off of low-information institutional disinformation, they start operating off of low-information self-made misinformation, or low-information counter-narrative disinformation. The institutions have behaved so egregiously that we have to kind of start from scratch with people to go over the basics. And when we're talking about normie a-political a-historical types, it's a real slog because they don't even know where to begin.
I remember taking my friends to go see Dunkirk when it came out in theaters, but they had never heard of the battle. They are into anime and fantasy, they had no reference point to WW2 outside of highschool history classes. I basically had to give them an ultra-simplified run-down on the when, who, and why of anything that was going on. Now, how are the tens of millions of Americans who are just like them going to understand WW2, when they know the institutions can't be trusted. Even if they hear correct information, it might be out-of-context and they might misconstrue what it means. Maybe they think something like: the USSR was always on the allied side.
I actually do understand the complaint of some of these Neo-Liberals complaining about anti-intellectualism and anti-institutionalism... but GOOD LORD: IT'S YOUR FAULT YOU DUMB BASTARDS! If you weren't dedicating the institutions to a full-spectrum propaganda war, they wouldn't be so anti-institutional, and they wouldn't fall for RandomFucko619's YouTube video on how Bulgaria will be a Super Power in 2020. And since I do know what they're lying about, I'd rather see the institutions raized to the fucking ground, rather than reform them because RandomFucko619 isn't saying anything crazier than you are!
The Ukraine chicken-hawks get to me because they started saying shit like "we should do to Putin what we did to Hitler"... "What? Firebomb every major city in Russia and murder 15 million people?" The aggressiveness in the stupidity makes me lose my mind, and the faggot "I fucking love history!" historians are writing books to profit off of the disinformation in exactly the same way as RandomFucko619 is... except they have a PhD.
Its a real issue because all the "neutral" sources are actually heavily painted towards the common consensus and narrative, to a point where its nearly impossible to even find anything remotely outside of that. You get the high school simplified version, and the longer detailed version that is a lot of boring details only really interesting to mega-autists who enjoy tank specifications and playing Risk.
So the only way to receive information outside of it is to listen to people who have thier own axe to grind, and are just as likely to be painting it to their flavor. But it is new information, that is usually completely factual once you verify it, so you begin to question everything and trust them more.
What makes it extra dumb is that if you really tried to lay out a neutral-as-possible understanding of the war, you'd not have a position that was too far away from what the Mainstream wants. It would be super easy to say "some Jewish elite were being fucked up in Weimar and it upset a lot of people" and then its not hard to follow that with "but that doesn't justify the Holocaust and the levels Nazis went to regarding it." And numerous other spots where the two sides differ heavily in what they are saying. The majority of the time, most people would end up on the side of the mainstream anyway.
But instead it was a full circled wagon. Weimar doesn't get mentioned in the slightest so the Nazis just woke up and decided to be evil just cuz. Which makes it super easy for the opposite side to point out reasons and crumble the entire tower of propaganda. Which creates the super easy hole of "what else were they lying about?!?!" to be filled with all sorts of anything.
I get what you are saying, but their complaint isn't actually their complaint. Their complaint is that people don't just reflexively trust "the experts" (academics, talking heads and anyone on the approved list). Otherwise they are just as anti- as the people they decry in these ways.
I still cannot even comprehend why I'm supposed to hate Putin/Russia. Like, I get why people did in the Cold War and guys who lived through that can't let it go. But otherwise he/they have done very little different or worse than what our "allies" do. And unlike them, he/they at least back up their shit with actual actions on their own instead of demanding the US do it for them.
Yet he/they are spoken of like its just the natural state of things that you will hate and despise. And thereby they can casually talk about deporting, genocide, and invading like they aren't even real people.
I guess I'm grateful that my friends allow me to teach them the history they don't know, because they trust me to separate out known facts, and then my opinions.
(Believe it or not, when I'm genuinely trying to teach someone a subject I come off much less opinionated than I do here.)
Which is weird because so much of their youth was spent condemning the knowledge of the institutions which they undermined, destroyed, and then replaced with their own bullshit.
In fairness, he did not defensively invade Ukraine. Since the coup, he's been attempting to divide out the geo-strategic, or politically useful, portions of Ukraine that he can.
The Resistance : Somehow think they are the underdog despite adopting the policies of international globalists, megacorporations, government agencies, nearly all political parties, the education system, the mainstream media.
Don't worry though, the leftists stealing the identity of a dead WWII veteran did it to ''start a conversation'', so it's still good.
the holocaust survivor special
allied WW2 vets don't deserve any respect for their service either way. Quite the opposite
Leave, then, parasite.
would the united states and most of western europe be in the demographic crisis it is now had the national socialists won?
Do you even know any of their policies or do you immediately equate them with the marxists they actually fought?
Choke
The biggest killers of leftists have always been other leftists
Nearly every leader involved in ww2 was a leftist goblin, FDR included
you are so fucking homosexual it's insane https://communities.win/c/ConsumeProduct/p/19AxUqkhqX/teaching-math/c
Hitler started WW2 and attacked a bunch of WHITE nations. Because "white" is an American conglomeration of fifty different backgrounds and Hitler didn't give a shit about them.
And yes, your leftism is still leftism. The globalists would love another hitler-type faggot to come to power. Look what happened post WW2. They got rid of the nationalism, and kept the socialism. The germans as a nation have been dead since ww1.
Get fucked, retard.
which is why they shit their pants whenever his name is mentioned and anything even slightly resembling his ideology gets any attention
yes, what did happen? innocent little poland for which the UK and France declared war against germany ended up swallowed whole by communism, as did half of europe. It could have been a short war to settle border conflict and crimes against ethnic germans there if (((Churchill))) didn't force the war on Hitler. If you need proof that he wasn't some maniac bent on world conquest, look only at the 17 different peace offers he sent to britain. Look at how he sent Hess to discuss terms in scotland and the british promptly had him rot in prison until he was murdered in 1987. They had him in solitary for 46 years. Why? Look at how he let the british escape at dunkirk. Look at how he didn't force the german language on occupied france. On and on and on.
Hitler HELPED the communists conquer Poland you ignorant faggot.
I'm not even one of our resident Hitler Lovers, but you guys spinning out will never not be hilarious.
Hitler was "vegetarian," and apparently not even that. He was the kind of vegetarian who ate chicken and fish on occasion. Checkmate, Hitler hater! Get wrecked!
No, but seriously. He wasn't a vegan. And considering some of his other flaws, it's a weird and superficial attack, even if it was true.
It's complicated. I've said before I thought everyone in WW2 was an asshole. Saying Hitler exclusively started it ignores a lot of context though, and is like saying Saddam started Desert Storm. Saddam and Hitler were both given the greenlight be the people who later condemned them.
Correct. And something a lot of pro-white people who go all in on Hitler miss, and definitely deserve criticism for. Hitler was not pro "white." He was primarily pro-German, and pro-European...as long as the aforementioned Germans were sitting pretty in such a scenario.
That said, "white" is currently a meaningful distinction, since so many people are staunchly against "whiteness." But, yeah, doesn't excuse people who are trying to claim Hitler as some sort of "white" savior.
The globalists love any conflict they can utilize. All it takes is for them to come out on top. They'd love a new Hitler, new socialists, communists, fascists, Islamists, whatever...as long as they win and get to determine the Post Evil Badguy Paradigm.
Also correct. Poor Germans.
Exactly my point. They don't care about which dogma they need to use, only that an authorirarian centralized power structure is in place. Pretty much every nefarious group ends up being run by sociopaths, who are exceptionally skilled at manipulating people. Any centralized authoritarian structure is the easiest thing for them to corrupt.
The real demon isn't niggers or jews or whites, it's sociopaths.
As to your point - yeah anti-white faggots are gay race commies and need to be destroyed for human society to be preserved. I'm not denying that "white" is a category people use, I do find it completely worthless as a determining factor on the worth of an individual. There's more than enough worthless whites out there.
Frankly, the pretend white nationalist nonsense isn't discriminatory enough - because most of the goons going for it are also trash with no value to anyone, that want to pretend being white is somehow inherently valuable. If anything it should be more embarassing that they're deranged anti-american degenerates.
I think blaming Hitler for WW2 is more accurate than laying sole blame on Zelensky for the Ukrainian shitshow, and I still hate that goblin for his part in it. You won't find many here pretending what he did wasn't hostile to his own countrymen.
If Hitler was half as based as any of the fake neonazi forum sliders pretend, he would have talked the allies into crushing the soviets together instead of allying with Stalin. But he wasn't actually trying to improve the world, he was just a homicidal goblin with delusions of grandeur. Imagine surviving WW1 and sending your country into that again. What a fucking subhuman he was.