If you’re going to say that segregation should be a thing, don’t pretend that the facilities are equal when you intentionally starve the black schools of money because you don’t like black people.
That is why Plessy v Ferguson was overturned to begin with, because in practice, separate was never equal
No one is equal. No groups are equal. Trying to force egalitarianism and equality onto things which are different, is insane and evil. Every time it's attempted, they take from those that produce, and give to those that don't.
Different people are meant to be separated into their own homes, communities, and nations. They're meant to pursue their own interests, goals, morals, religions, philosophies, and governance with their own people, to succeed or fail based on their own merit.
By your logic, every single White nation should be forced to pay for all the non-white nations, because we live next time them, because we succeed and they don't, which is viewed by people like you as "intentionally starve them", by not giving them all of our stuff, while they don't produce enough for their own people. So, in addition to busing non-whites into White nations, because Whitey is evil and deserves it, because nons deserve "equality" with Whites, according to people like you, so too are White people's productivity stolen by governmental force to give to those who we share nothing in common with, who will never be equal to us, who will never be able to build a thriving home, community, or nation with.
Let's look at old photos of all the formerly White cities in the late 1800s and early 1900s, and compare them to now, when they've been taken over by nons. Did the nons maintain what White people built? Did the nons appreciate all the gifts they were given? Do the cities look the same as before, or have all of them turned into garbage infested, worn down, crime ridden, dessicated husks of their former glory?
No one is equal. No groups are equal. Trying to force egalitarianism and equality onto things which are different, is insane and evil. Every time it's attempted, they take from those that produce, and give to those that don't.
Different people are meant to be separated into their own homes, communities, and nations. They're meant to pursue their own interests, goals, morals, religions, philosophies, and governance with their own people, to succeed or fail based on their own merit.
I never said that they weren’t or could not. What I said was that if whatever the hell were the population ratios back then in the post-Reconstruction to CRA America was (Reconstruction itself was very weird because of black people gaining status they wouldn’t until post CRA, hence why I’m talking about Jim Crow era America), wasn’t the ratio of money spread (the common ratio I hear was 90% white and 10% black) wasn’t the money spread, then I don’t care. If the money was that and still nothing happened (as most of the famous black people from that time period who weren’t integration activists were athletes and musicians, as for example I don’t think I’ve seen a single photo of a black person working on the Manhattan Project), fine, but at least make that ten percent available, which notably the governments of the states with Jim Crow laws did not. If the 10 percent wasted the 10 percent of money given to them, absolutely they must live with the consequences, but IIRC, the 10 percent wasn’t even given 10 percent of allotted money.
By your logic, every single White nation should be forced to pay for all the non-white nations, because we live next time them, because we succeed and they don't, which is viewed by people like you as "intentionally starve them", by not giving them all of our stuff, while they don't produce enough for their own people.
I never compared that era of America to immigration so how is this a thing at all? I’m going to assume that you wish that black people were all deported to Liberia like what was allegedly supposed to happen post-Civil War, pre the 13th through 15th amendments, but regardless of that, black people lived in America, while as slaves yes, but black people still have been in this country since the 13 colonies.
So, in addition to busing non-whites into White nations, because Whitey is evil and deserves it, because nons deserve "equality" with Whites, according to people like you, so too are White people's productivity stolen by governmental force to give to those who we share nothing in common with, who will never be equal to us, who will never be able to build a thriving home, community, or nation with.
Let's look at old photos of all the formerly White cities in the late 1800s and early 1900s, and compare them to now, when they've been taken over by nons. Did the nons maintain what White people built? Did the nons appreciate all the gifts they were given? Do the cities look the same as before, or have all of them turned into garbage infested, worn down, crime ridden, dessicated husks of their former glory?
The only thing I can do is be a productive member of society and ideally have children who will also grow up to become productive members of society as well. Sometimes I wonder whether or not we will eventually live in a world where businesses actually do bar me from entering because of what I look like, but then I realize that while there might be a large amount of people who think the way you do, the percentage that actually lives in this country is a lot lower than I think it is, which is mostly because I keep taking 4chan users seriously when I shouldn’t.
I just want to live in a peaceful world and hate that a large chunk of the people who look like aren’t like me, Smith1850, MattTheBlack and etc and are instead idiots who irrationally hate white people and commit violence at crazy rates.
I never said that they weren’t or could not. What I said was that if whatever the hell were the population ratios back then in the post-Reconstruction to CRA America was (Reconstruction itself was very weird because of black people gaining status they wouldn’t until post CRA, hence why I’m talking about Jim Crow era America), wasn’t the ratio of money spread (the common ratio I hear was 90% white and 10% black) wasn’t the money spread, then I don’t care. If the money was that and still nothing happened (as most of the famous black people from that time period who weren’t integration activists were athletes and musicians, as for example I don’t think I’ve seen a single photo of a black person working on the Manhattan Project), fine, but at least make that ten percent available, which notably the governments of the states with Jim Crow laws did not. If the 10 percent wasted the 10 percent of money given to them, absolutely they must live with the consequences, but IIRC, the 10 percent wasn’t even given 10 percent of allotted money.
Modern taxation, welfare, and the centralized federal government didn't exist back then. Black people weren't being taxed to pay for White folk, nor vice versa. The federal government was much, much smaller around the time of the Civil War. Most taxes didn't even exist back then, and the federal government was funded mostly off of tariffs. For example, the income tax didn't exist until 1913. You're arguing on behalf of something that didn't exist back then.
Since, back then, communities took care of themselves, if black communities were poorer, it's because their people were less productive. The often repeated normie/brainwashed counterargument to this is to say: "but Whitey oppressed them". But, this counter argument always ignores the average bell curve of all non-white peoples, where ever they exist, which holds true across national borders, continents, and time. We see all of these measurable and repeatable statistics hold up, even across socio-economic factors. For example, the richest black people are much more violent than even the most poor White people. Even accounting for testosterone, black women are much more violent than White men. And, if poverty prevented productivity, then how come every single White colony and nation was built from nothing, with people that started with nothing, but worked anyway to make it better? Your argument ignores all of these facts.
Furthermore, taxation and welfare has never been equal. Taxation always takes from the productive, and welfare is always given to those less productive (by chance or by choice). White people, nor any other people, should be forced at gun point to pay for people who don't belong in their homes, communities, and nations.
You're arguing from a point of ignorance about what "nation" means. "Nation" is derived from old French and Latin, which literally translates to: family, children, parents, heritage, progeny, familial bond, blood, people. A nation is the people. If you change the people, you change the nation. You can't transplant a unique people from one location to another, and expect them to act completely differently. This is the very tired and disproven "magic dirt" lie pushed by those who argue for race blindness and egalitarianism. Furthermore, you can't inject different people into a nation and expect the nation to remain the same. Conflict is always built on diversity and proximity. We see this play out with the interracial crime stats, even in "peaceful" times. Every measurable metric for social cohesion and societal health degrades or entirely collapses with diversity being forced into it. It's like trying to force soccer players into a football game. It creates pure chaos because the games are completely different, the rules are different, the people are different, and it would prevent either side from being able to play. Non-whites don't belong in White nations, and can't maintain or deserve what we build or produce. Whites don't belong in non-white nations, either.
I never compared that era of America to immigration so how is this a thing at all? I’m going to assume that you wish that black people were all deported to Liberia like what was allegedly supposed to happen post-Civil War, pre the 13th through 15th amendments, but regardless of that, black people lived in America, while as slaves yes, but black people still have been in this country since the 13 colonies.
Yes. Black people deserve to live in black nations. They have tons of them in Africa. They deserve the same natural rights that White people, or Arabs, or Asians deserve. We all deserve the right to have our own groups, homes, communities, and nations, to control who enters, to gatekeep, to collectivize and espouse for our ethnic interests in our own homelands, to pursue our own goals and interests, and to protect our loved ones and people. This doesn't mean I hate black people, or anyone else. It just means that White people, right now, are actively being denied our natural rights, while everyone else is being mass imported into White nations and given all of our land, productivity, and birthright. Anyone arguing otherwise is, if they're White, a traitor to their own people and deserves a traitor's punishment.
The only thing I can do is be a productive member of society and ideally have children who will also grow up to become productive members of society as well. Sometimes I wonder whether or not we will eventually live in a world where businesses actually do bar me from entering because of what I look like, but then I realize that while there might be a large amount of people who think the way you do, the percentage that actually lives in this country is a lot lower than I think it is, which is mostly because I keep taking 4chan users seriously when I shouldn’t.
I take it then, that you're not White? Why are you living here? Why are you not living with your own people? Why do you think access to White people is your right?
How is what I'm saying wrong? I actively grant everyone the exact same rights as I expect White people to have. It's you that's the hypocrite. You expect White people to open their borders and nations to the entire damned planet, and expect us to like it, as we're systematically replaced and genocided in our nations that our ancestors conquered and built. If this were happening to your people, you'd be screaming bloody murder, but because racism against White people has been normalized, because active denial of many natural rights has been denied to White people, you make excuse for it and defend it, because you actively benefit by living next to the productivity of White people. You are a hypocrite.
I just want to live in a peaceful world and hate that a large chunk of the people who look like aren’t like me, Smith1850, MattTheBlack and etc and are instead idiots who irrationally hate white people and commit violence at crazy rates.
No one is stopping you. Go build your own communities, groups, and nations. Control who enters and gatekeep out undesirables. I grant you what you actively deny me and my own.
Blacks destroy everything they touch. You could give them the best of everything and they’ll either destroy it or sell it. No reason to give anywhere close to equal resources to them.
If you’re going to say that segregation should be a thing, don’t pretend that the facilities are equal when you intentionally starve the black schools of money because you don’t like black people.
That is why Plessy v Ferguson was overturned to begin with, because in practice, separate was never equal
No one is equal. No groups are equal. Trying to force egalitarianism and equality onto things which are different, is insane and evil. Every time it's attempted, they take from those that produce, and give to those that don't.
Different people are meant to be separated into their own homes, communities, and nations. They're meant to pursue their own interests, goals, morals, religions, philosophies, and governance with their own people, to succeed or fail based on their own merit.
By your logic, every single White nation should be forced to pay for all the non-white nations, because we live next time them, because we succeed and they don't, which is viewed by people like you as "intentionally starve them", by not giving them all of our stuff, while they don't produce enough for their own people. So, in addition to busing non-whites into White nations, because Whitey is evil and deserves it, because nons deserve "equality" with Whites, according to people like you, so too are White people's productivity stolen by governmental force to give to those who we share nothing in common with, who will never be equal to us, who will never be able to build a thriving home, community, or nation with.
Let's look at old photos of all the formerly White cities in the late 1800s and early 1900s, and compare them to now, when they've been taken over by nons. Did the nons maintain what White people built? Did the nons appreciate all the gifts they were given? Do the cities look the same as before, or have all of them turned into garbage infested, worn down, crime ridden, dessicated husks of their former glory?
I never said that they weren’t or could not. What I said was that if whatever the hell were the population ratios back then in the post-Reconstruction to CRA America was (Reconstruction itself was very weird because of black people gaining status they wouldn’t until post CRA, hence why I’m talking about Jim Crow era America), wasn’t the ratio of money spread (the common ratio I hear was 90% white and 10% black) wasn’t the money spread, then I don’t care. If the money was that and still nothing happened (as most of the famous black people from that time period who weren’t integration activists were athletes and musicians, as for example I don’t think I’ve seen a single photo of a black person working on the Manhattan Project), fine, but at least make that ten percent available, which notably the governments of the states with Jim Crow laws did not. If the 10 percent wasted the 10 percent of money given to them, absolutely they must live with the consequences, but IIRC, the 10 percent wasn’t even given 10 percent of allotted money.
I never compared that era of America to immigration so how is this a thing at all? I’m going to assume that you wish that black people were all deported to Liberia like what was allegedly supposed to happen post-Civil War, pre the 13th through 15th amendments, but regardless of that, black people lived in America, while as slaves yes, but black people still have been in this country since the 13 colonies.
The only thing I can do is be a productive member of society and ideally have children who will also grow up to become productive members of society as well. Sometimes I wonder whether or not we will eventually live in a world where businesses actually do bar me from entering because of what I look like, but then I realize that while there might be a large amount of people who think the way you do, the percentage that actually lives in this country is a lot lower than I think it is, which is mostly because I keep taking 4chan users seriously when I shouldn’t.
I just want to live in a peaceful world and hate that a large chunk of the people who look like aren’t like me, Smith1850, MattTheBlack and etc and are instead idiots who irrationally hate white people and commit violence at crazy rates.
Modern taxation, welfare, and the centralized federal government didn't exist back then. Black people weren't being taxed to pay for White folk, nor vice versa. The federal government was much, much smaller around the time of the Civil War. Most taxes didn't even exist back then, and the federal government was funded mostly off of tariffs. For example, the income tax didn't exist until 1913. You're arguing on behalf of something that didn't exist back then.
Since, back then, communities took care of themselves, if black communities were poorer, it's because their people were less productive. The often repeated normie/brainwashed counterargument to this is to say: "but Whitey oppressed them". But, this counter argument always ignores the average bell curve of all non-white peoples, where ever they exist, which holds true across national borders, continents, and time. We see all of these measurable and repeatable statistics hold up, even across socio-economic factors. For example, the richest black people are much more violent than even the most poor White people. Even accounting for testosterone, black women are much more violent than White men. And, if poverty prevented productivity, then how come every single White colony and nation was built from nothing, with people that started with nothing, but worked anyway to make it better? Your argument ignores all of these facts.
Furthermore, taxation and welfare has never been equal. Taxation always takes from the productive, and welfare is always given to those less productive (by chance or by choice). White people, nor any other people, should be forced at gun point to pay for people who don't belong in their homes, communities, and nations.
You're arguing from a point of ignorance about what "nation" means. "Nation" is derived from old French and Latin, which literally translates to: family, children, parents, heritage, progeny, familial bond, blood, people. A nation is the people. If you change the people, you change the nation. You can't transplant a unique people from one location to another, and expect them to act completely differently. This is the very tired and disproven "magic dirt" lie pushed by those who argue for race blindness and egalitarianism. Furthermore, you can't inject different people into a nation and expect the nation to remain the same. Conflict is always built on diversity and proximity. We see this play out with the interracial crime stats, even in "peaceful" times. Every measurable metric for social cohesion and societal health degrades or entirely collapses with diversity being forced into it. It's like trying to force soccer players into a football game. It creates pure chaos because the games are completely different, the rules are different, the people are different, and it would prevent either side from being able to play. Non-whites don't belong in White nations, and can't maintain or deserve what we build or produce. Whites don't belong in non-white nations, either.
Yes. Black people deserve to live in black nations. They have tons of them in Africa. They deserve the same natural rights that White people, or Arabs, or Asians deserve. We all deserve the right to have our own groups, homes, communities, and nations, to control who enters, to gatekeep, to collectivize and espouse for our ethnic interests in our own homelands, to pursue our own goals and interests, and to protect our loved ones and people. This doesn't mean I hate black people, or anyone else. It just means that White people, right now, are actively being denied our natural rights, while everyone else is being mass imported into White nations and given all of our land, productivity, and birthright. Anyone arguing otherwise is, if they're White, a traitor to their own people and deserves a traitor's punishment.
I take it then, that you're not White? Why are you living here? Why are you not living with your own people? Why do you think access to White people is your right?
How is what I'm saying wrong? I actively grant everyone the exact same rights as I expect White people to have. It's you that's the hypocrite. You expect White people to open their borders and nations to the entire damned planet, and expect us to like it, as we're systematically replaced and genocided in our nations that our ancestors conquered and built. If this were happening to your people, you'd be screaming bloody murder, but because racism against White people has been normalized, because active denial of many natural rights has been denied to White people, you make excuse for it and defend it, because you actively benefit by living next to the productivity of White people. You are a hypocrite.
No one is stopping you. Go build your own communities, groups, and nations. Control who enters and gatekeep out undesirables. I grant you what you actively deny me and my own.
Rural Appalachia vs Baltimore. both are terribly uneducated and poor, yet only one has loads of violence theft and murder. Wonder why that is
Blacks destroy everything they touch. You could give them the best of everything and they’ll either destroy it or sell it. No reason to give anywhere close to equal resources to them.