They keep arguing over these pedantic little details, when the truth is that literally everyone on Trump's train would support deporting him regardless of being in a gang or not.
Because let's ignore that a literal court of law (aka the due process they keep whining about) found him guilty of being part of that gang, tattoos or otherwise. But that same court also found him guilty of being here illegally regardless. Whatever his him nation wants to do with him is between their president and their citizen, but he isn't ours and not our problem to care about.
Also you can see them on him in a few of the frames when he met with that politician a few days ago. They tried to position to hide it, but it still gets seen a few times.
The fact that they are arguing over the idea that tattoos aren't a good form of identification is infuriating, and they hare hoping everyone listening to them is stupid. Those tattoos are a better form of ID then your driver's license and SSN. Know why? Because they kill you if you didn't get them by the gang's standard. If you have those tattoos and you aren't MS-13, they hunt you down and kill you, very violently. If you're at a traffic stop, and you forget your registration, the cop doesn't take two steps back and mag dumps your face. I can apply for a social security card at any time, but I have to commit at least one rape and one murder if I want those tattoos, and their gang members need to witness it to know it's legit. So yeah, those tattoos are, frankly, more than enough information.
The intentional manipulation of "due process" here is another dishonest tactic.
He received all of the due process an illegal immigrant requires, and frankly more than was ever intended. They are trying to make people infer that he deserves the full due process rights of a full citizen despite not being one. I forget what it's called, but it's basically a sales tactic of psychological manipulation. When a car dealer starts referring to a car you haven't bought yet as "your car", and is basically mentally prepping you for having owned the car, in order to make you purchase it. That's basically the same thing here. Convincing everyone not only to give him automatic citizenship, but general amnesty as well. "Maryland Man".
I'm telling you these Democrats are being funded by MS-13 and the cartels. That's the only real explanation of their behavior.
he deserves the full due process rights of a full citizen despite not being one
He got multiple chances regarding his crime, including a very lenient plea bargain equivalent that he violated entirely. He got better than most citizens get.
Those tattoos are a better form of ID
Its funny how we have a fucking encyclopedia of gang tattoos that the FBI and every documentary treat as unquestionable fact going back decades in regards to American gangs. It was the basis of most of their scouting tactics against the "Aryan Nation" and all similar white power groups. If they had the tattoo, or flag, they got noted.
But this guy from a place where a slightly wrong tattoo gets you straight killed might be in question.
In theory? You can get tattoos to cover over your gang tattoos that indicate you've quit the gang? Any gang has to have a legitimate way to quit, eh? Or else the leaders themselves are trapped in it, even when they want to retire with their millions of $$$ and large families. (Their families are in constant danger. Both from other gangs in from inside too)
But he's still doing crimes in the USA? So screw him & throw him out for good. Tats or no tats, he's still a gang-banger.
well the idea is the tattoos on gang members are like a brand on a heifer; they own you for life( i did some looking around online after wading through the dross).
but yeah, you can get them removed with a special laser, it's just expensive and excruciatingly painful from what i hear.
Right, but aside from laser removal (which, iirc, still leaves scars) some gangs have a 'rule' where members who leave can essentially have their ID tats "X'd out" like the red slash in a circle.
Now, do active members follow this? Or will they still punish anyone they catch? IDK, I just saw an article on some (older) South American gang members who'd fled their country and left the gang behind. Getting their Tats "adjusted" was very important to them.
It is supposed to be for life, I agree! But people change and no "leader" wants to be trapped by his own rules.
it's possible, though speculative, but this looks like an effort to hide them for the camera rather than disavow. I have heard ms-13 is trying to move away from tattoos for the very same reason reason garcia got caught in the first place: they make you an obvious target for cops and other gang members.
Maybe? But this guy isn't in that category, he's been a banger for what? 15 years? I very much doubt he left the gang while continuing to carry out crimes, they'd have stomped him but good.
Anyhow, Dems are so brain-dead they don't even understand how normal people do NOT support terrorists, gangs and criminals entering the country illegally & being give free room & board for 5-7 years "awaiting deportation". NO American gets as much as the illegals get. Same in Canada: $78K per illegal per year, 3 year minimum wait time.
Dems are so brain-dead they don't even understand how normal people do NOT support terrorists, gangs and criminals
first-order thinking and surface-level examination of problems, coupled with superficial empathy is my take on their problem. For all their talk of "systemic bias," they fail to actually look at issues systemically.
From cost of living to immigration to food deserts to race relations, they rarely look into the causes of problems beyond the most obvious, surface-level explanations and/or solutions.
For all their talk of "systemic bias," they fail to actually look at issues systemically.
Excellent point! The "party of science(tm)" rarely applies actual science to anything. They should be called the party of lies, damned lies & statistics :p
I found a 6 year-old grocery flyer the other day. Everything is 30-40% higher now, across the board. Thanks Biden! Thanks Trudeau!
They keep arguing over these pedantic little details, when the truth is that literally everyone on Trump's train would support deporting him regardless of being in a gang or not.
Because let's ignore that a literal court of law (aka the due process they keep whining about) found him guilty of being part of that gang, tattoos or otherwise. But that same court also found him guilty of being here illegally regardless. Whatever his him nation wants to do with him is between their president and their citizen, but he isn't ours and not our problem to care about.
Also you can see them on him in a few of the frames when he met with that politician a few days ago. They tried to position to hide it, but it still gets seen a few times.
The fact that they are arguing over the idea that tattoos aren't a good form of identification is infuriating, and they hare hoping everyone listening to them is stupid. Those tattoos are a better form of ID then your driver's license and SSN. Know why? Because they kill you if you didn't get them by the gang's standard. If you have those tattoos and you aren't MS-13, they hunt you down and kill you, very violently. If you're at a traffic stop, and you forget your registration, the cop doesn't take two steps back and mag dumps your face. I can apply for a social security card at any time, but I have to commit at least one rape and one murder if I want those tattoos, and their gang members need to witness it to know it's legit. So yeah, those tattoos are, frankly, more than enough information.
The intentional manipulation of "due process" here is another dishonest tactic.
He received all of the due process an illegal immigrant requires, and frankly more than was ever intended. They are trying to make people infer that he deserves the full due process rights of a full citizen despite not being one. I forget what it's called, but it's basically a sales tactic of psychological manipulation. When a car dealer starts referring to a car you haven't bought yet as "your car", and is basically mentally prepping you for having owned the car, in order to make you purchase it. That's basically the same thing here. Convincing everyone not only to give him automatic citizenship, but general amnesty as well. "Maryland Man".
I'm telling you these Democrats are being funded by MS-13 and the cartels. That's the only real explanation of their behavior.
...or they hired them as mercenary enforcers.
porque no los dos?
possible, seems unlikely it'd be both, though.
He got multiple chances regarding his crime, including a very lenient plea bargain equivalent that he violated entirely. He got better than most citizens get.
Its funny how we have a fucking encyclopedia of gang tattoos that the FBI and every documentary treat as unquestionable fact going back decades in regards to American gangs. It was the basis of most of their scouting tactics against the "Aryan Nation" and all similar white power groups. If they had the tattoo, or flag, they got noted.
But this guy from a place where a slightly wrong tattoo gets you straight killed might be in question.
And having those tattoos while hanging out with gang members that referred to him by his rank.
But we gotta ignore all that.
well said.
Yeah but the latest judge determined it to be untrue.
Same people who looked at the Covington kids and saw racist abusers.
Same people who looked at Elon’s “ my heart goes out to you” and heard Hitler
Something something dog whistles but they're the only ones hearing it?
And ignored that same thing when their side did it, of course
agreed.
In theory? You can get tattoos to cover over your gang tattoos that indicate you've quit the gang? Any gang has to have a legitimate way to quit, eh? Or else the leaders themselves are trapped in it, even when they want to retire with their millions of $$$ and large families. (Their families are in constant danger. Both from other gangs in from inside too)
But he's still doing crimes in the USA? So screw him & throw him out for good. Tats or no tats, he's still a gang-banger.
well the idea is the tattoos on gang members are like a brand on a heifer; they own you for life( i did some looking around online after wading through the dross).
but yeah, you can get them removed with a special laser, it's just expensive and excruciatingly painful from what i hear.
Right, but aside from laser removal (which, iirc, still leaves scars) some gangs have a 'rule' where members who leave can essentially have their ID tats "X'd out" like the red slash in a circle.
Now, do active members follow this? Or will they still punish anyone they catch? IDK, I just saw an article on some (older) South American gang members who'd fled their country and left the gang behind. Getting their Tats "adjusted" was very important to them.
It is supposed to be for life, I agree! But people change and no "leader" wants to be trapped by his own rules.
it's possible, though speculative, but this looks like an effort to hide them for the camera rather than disavow. I have heard ms-13 is trying to move away from tattoos for the very same reason reason garcia got caught in the first place: they make you an obvious target for cops and other gang members.
Maybe? But this guy isn't in that category, he's been a banger for what? 15 years? I very much doubt he left the gang while continuing to carry out crimes, they'd have stomped him but good.
Anyhow, Dems are so brain-dead they don't even understand how normal people do NOT support terrorists, gangs and criminals entering the country illegally & being give free room & board for 5-7 years "awaiting deportation". NO American gets as much as the illegals get. Same in Canada: $78K per illegal per year, 3 year minimum wait time.
first-order thinking and surface-level examination of problems, coupled with superficial empathy is my take on their problem. For all their talk of "systemic bias," they fail to actually look at issues systemically.
From cost of living to immigration to food deserts to race relations, they rarely look into the causes of problems beyond the most obvious, surface-level explanations and/or solutions.
Excellent point! The "party of science(tm)" rarely applies actual science to anything. They should be called the party of lies, damned lies & statistics :p
I found a 6 year-old grocery flyer the other day. Everything is 30-40% higher now, across the board. Thanks Biden! Thanks Trudeau!