A race is a group of people with shared physical and/or historical ancestry. The fact that all those various whites can be denoted based on their differentiating physical features alone in a large quantity makes them a unique race.
"White" or "European" or even "Caucasoid" is the pulled back supercategory of race that all of them belong to, to denote their much wider differences away from the Negroid (black) and Mongoloid (yellow, red, brown) categories of race.
I'll grant you, I don't know enough about Africa to know their broad racial categories and just picked three countries I could remember offhand.
All the things you mentioned that are not White/Caucasian/European Descent synonyms are cultural or ethnic groups, not races.
In your view, the highest level of ancestry grouping doesn't have a name for itself, it's just "supercategory". That's never how naming works, the highest level always has the name.
In your view, the highest level of ancestry grouping doesn't have a name for itself, it's just "supercategory".
Yeah it does, its called human. It begins there to differentiate us from the other apes. Then it breaks down into the big three, which are hugely vague but still noticeable separations. And then it just keeps breaking down to more and more specialized groupings.
I cannot even follow your logic any longer beyond "nu uh."
I cannot even follow your logic any longer beyond "nu uh."
No doubt. Have you ever in your life seen a "race" question on any document you ever filled out that listed Iberian? FBI crime data broken down by Celts vs Polacks. lol.
Even on the census they have write-ins for Ancestry not race - OMB defines race as White, Black, American Indian, Asian, Pacific Islander and so does census.
Good lord man, you're allowed to admit you're wrong.
I've also not seen them list Jew, and most of the time Latino is categorized as "White" with a whole different question for Hispanic as something not racial as it has its own question.
But I feel like you might consider those two "not white." So clearly you only appeal to authority when you think it benefits you without thinking. But glad the Federal Government is what you think of as someone you should cite on race.
There is nothing to admit to being wrong about, I'd happily do so if you said anything that might give me pause. But so far you can't even address the point other than "nu uh."
A race is a group of people with shared physical and/or historical ancestry. The fact that all those various whites can be denoted based on their differentiating physical features alone in a large quantity makes them a unique race.
"White" or "European" or even "Caucasoid" is the pulled back supercategory of race that all of them belong to, to denote their much wider differences away from the Negroid (black) and Mongoloid (yellow, red, brown) categories of race.
I'll grant you, I don't know enough about Africa to know their broad racial categories and just picked three countries I could remember offhand.
All the things you mentioned that are not White/Caucasian/European Descent synonyms are cultural or ethnic groups, not races.
In your view, the highest level of ancestry grouping doesn't have a name for itself, it's just "supercategory". That's never how naming works, the highest level always has the name.
Yeah it does, its called human. It begins there to differentiate us from the other apes. Then it breaks down into the big three, which are hugely vague but still noticeable separations. And then it just keeps breaking down to more and more specialized groupings.
I cannot even follow your logic any longer beyond "nu uh."
No doubt. Have you ever in your life seen a "race" question on any document you ever filled out that listed Iberian? FBI crime data broken down by Celts vs Polacks. lol.
Even on the census they have write-ins for Ancestry not race - OMB defines race as White, Black, American Indian, Asian, Pacific Islander and so does census.
Good lord man, you're allowed to admit you're wrong.
I've also not seen them list Jew, and most of the time Latino is categorized as "White" with a whole different question for Hispanic as something not racial as it has its own question.
But I feel like you might consider those two "not white." So clearly you only appeal to authority when you think it benefits you without thinking. But glad the Federal Government is what you think of as someone you should cite on race.
There is nothing to admit to being wrong about, I'd happily do so if you said anything that might give me pause. But so far you can't even address the point other than "nu uh."