I love the Tim Burton Batman movies, but I've always enjoyed Batman Forever nearly just as much.
Look, Batman and Robin is garbage, I'm not a contrarian, but Batman Forever straddles that edge of campy and cheesy without going over the edge into garbage territory like B&R did.
Batman Forever is one of those movies that was part of my childhood along with Star Wars, Indiana Jones, etc.
Yes it's pretty corny, yes Jim Carrey is over the top, but it's a fun movie and it's usually talked about like it's almost as bad as Batman and Robin, but I totally disagree.
I mean Batman Returns itself has got a really strange tone. I flip flop on which I like better, but ultimately I'd say Batman Returns and Batman Forever are about equally as good for different reasons.
I know this forum is more about political stuff in the pop culture, but just wanted to give this pop-culture opinion.
If there's any Batman Forever haters, let's fight about it.
Jim Carrey is over the top? Tommy Lee Jones’s performance is probably the worst of his career.
No argument here haha even if the performance doesn't bother me. But what a bizarre casting choice. Why would you cast the grumpiest man in Hollywood in a zany goofy role like that?
What gun did they have to his head, to make him do that movie.
One with glowing neon lights on it.
Reportedly, Jones got pissed at Carey for clowning around and being unserious on set and has hated him ever since.
Kilmer was a good Batman. But the film still sucked.
I got your back, I grew up with the VHS, I thought Jim Carrey was a great Riddler.
I don't think the problem with batman forever has anything to do with the film in and of itself, but rather what it was connected to. If it was set in its own universe it would have been fine, but because it's attached to batman '89 and batman returns, the tonal shift from returns to forever is jarring. (see also: teen titans vs teen titans go).
the first two batman movies in the tetralogy(today i learned, lol) are these dark, serious films with a bit of dark humor interlaced in here and there, and then with little to know transition, you jump to batman forever, which have a lot more of the west-era camp and silliness to them.
This, by the way, is why they're hated. Not so much because they're bad movies, but because they were presented as being int he same universe as batman and batman returns.
It's extremely 90s. If you're into that, which I am, it's a great movie. But you gotta know what you're getting into with hyper-90s stuff.
Watching Batman Forever on VHS while I sip a Sunny D and play Cool World on SNES. Good times.
I'll go even further and say Batman and Robin isn't half as bad as people say it is.
Its an absolutely ridiculous movie that is so over the top in so many ways that it doubles back on being hilarious in almost every scene. It barely takes itself seriously, so why should you?
Literally, its entire bad reputation is down to people refusing to accept anything but "dark, brooding Batman" as acceptable and then just rejecting it entirely based on that premise. A problem that still plagues the franchise as The Brave and the Bold faced similar issues despite being probably the best Animated Batman since TAS.
Its no masterpiece movie that's good on objective levels. But its absolutely an enjoyable ride if you let yourself just accept that Batman has just as much history being that kind of corny, retardation as he does a gothic, serious icon.
What killed the dinosaurs?
One of the theories about this movie is that it's a meta Batman movie within the Batman movies, like if you went to Bat-Keaton Gotham and went to the movie theater, this is what you'd get if they made a movie about the Batman guy the city is famous for.
Batman Forever sucked. The only reason why you don't consider it as bad as Batman and Robin, is because half the production was comprised out of left-overs from Tim Burton and his collaborators. Tim Burton left the movie project because the studio wanted it more tailored to McDonald's/MTV kids. (Funnily enough, Tim Burton went on to direct the most stale and generic kids movies imaginable for Disney, e.g. Alice In Wonderland.)
It's got a good soundtrack, though.
Batman was supposed to be campy and cheesy. This "dark and gritty" shit they've been doing with children's stories was the start of society's descent into madness. When people online said "the good guys always winning is boring" the response should have been to tell them to go explore adult stories, rather than turning kid's entertainment into a daycare for overgrown toddlers.
Because you are a gheyboi
I think it's an okay movie.