they are claiming there was no manifesto, just a series of notes Left behind detailing how she really wanted to do the shooting and the mental issues she was going through.
it totally wasn't a manifesto though /s
they're also claiming she wasn't transgender, despite going by a male name and male pronouns for the last year of her life. definitely wasn't a tranny though! /s
The part that got leaked was overtly a manifesto. She targeted white Christian kids intentionally and even didn’t do a middle school instead because she could have been considered racist
The leak also told us everything we needed to know about the little pooner and so much of it makes therapists, women, and the entire progressive ideology look bad that they literally cannot ever release it without it blowing up in their face.
She literally had pages upon pages of femcel rage about some black girl she never talked to not letting her ass fuck her with her mythical dick that never goes limp.
Honest question. Is it not time to make possessing video or images of crimes itself a crime? Consider, we already make possession of CP a crime, even if the possessor has never once manufactured any of it, using the legal theory that possession by itself increases demand, therefore the possessor is complicit in the manufacture. This has been a long held belief and is the sole legal rational behind criminalizing what amounts to pixels on a screen. We already accept this because we seek to reduce the manufacture of CP overall. Well we know that other types of criminals even more directly thrive on increased demand. The 'knock out game' for instance, only became popular because 'teens' saw others doing it on video on TikTok or Instagram and liked the fame they got from it and decided to do more. That is an actual provable direct link in the viewing or possessing of certain images or videos causing the occurrence of the crimes taking place in those videos to drastically increase. People have literally been murdered because those videos were allowed to spread. Would it not be reasonable to start treating videos or images of other crimes the same way we treat CP?
I'm not strictly suggestion we actually do that, but I am interested in real responses about why it is acceptable in one sort of case and not another. Is a 14yo who gets his head caved in on the sidewalk by some black because the black saw it on TikTok and wanted to be famous himself somehow less abused than the 14yo who took pictures of herself naked?
Its probably allowed without much fuss because those videos are usually the most irrefutable and readily available evidence of a crime even happening and who was involved, and many other details.
AKA, the thing the guys who enforce the law need to actually enforce that law. And criminalizing it will simply reduce their ability to actually do anything, because by the time they arrive its already too late. Heck the only reason more people aren't arrested for this right now is because of privacy type laws that prevent them from just getting all our info instantly by asking.
CP is considered so heinous that the idea is likely that you aren't an innocent bystander if you witness it, you are an accomplice by not acting. Probably similar with rape in general, but I've not seen too many cases of that to be certain. You can say that's not a good standard but it seems to be how most people fall on the thing.
So, you can criminalize it all, but then you basically cut off a lot of the evidence and ability to actually enforce those laws to begin with. And in exchange you arrest a lot of people who were just sitting at a computer not currently hurting anyone, which is just thought crimes and a danger slope to go down.
There are plenty of holes with this idea, but we also can't live in an idealized world were we can just perfectly control crime through passing laws either.
Well said!
Where does it stop? Snooping in everyone's media would take legions of people & cost a fortune. The actually evil people would still find ways to evade detection, while normal folks would be an open book to the Inquisition.
We all agree CP is bad. But who defines what it covers? Classic paintings like Mary Cassatt's "The Bath" (1893)? "Bath Time with Sister" painting by Harold Ellison (2014)? Both are SFW but I won't link them just in case.
What else gets regulated? Any form of violence? Any form of "bigotry"? Will we be like Europe where calling a Muslim child-rapist "a pig" sends you to jail for a longer sentence than he got for rape?
& etc.
Leftists will salivate & think these are great ideas! Imagining that they'll be in charge, not the target. Yes they're that dumb.
The actually evil people would still find ways to evade detection, while normal folks would be an open book to the Inquisition.
That's basically the foundation of how most of our laws versus freedom dichotomies work.
We let things go that maybe should be criminal, simply because we can never truly stop/prevent it for whatever reason and criminalizing it just drives it harder underground to prevent any attempt at confronting it.
And this only doesn't apply to the most awful and damaging of actions, CP, rape, hardcore drugs, prostitution, etc. Ones where there is no "ethical consumption" and thereby we cannot abide it in any form.
I think the setup for it as we have it in America is probably the most superior option, and all of the so called failings of it can be sanded off with better cultural and community action instead of more government and laws instead. If everytime a nigger got caught playing the knockout game, his family was shunned, his life destroyed, and social consequences were basically enough to internally regulate (whether his internally or just his family/neighborhood beating sense into him), then we wouldn't all need to give up our privacy to combat it.
I agree! Back when community standards were held in great value? People didn't need Ottawa or DC to tell them right from wrong.
My point in noting that such widespread authority was give to governments is that the 'good reasons' they started with, like fighting CP, end up becoming the literal Inquisition where people are grabbed for trivial, arbitrary "reasons" and tortured into confessing. And their money and land confiscated, of course. Actually this is already going on...
Sure.
Release the Tranifesto, then we can talk.
they are claiming there was no manifesto, just a series of notes Left behind detailing how she really wanted to do the shooting and the mental issues she was going through.
it totally wasn't a manifesto though /s
they're also claiming she wasn't transgender, despite going by a male name and male pronouns for the last year of her life. definitely wasn't a tranny though! /s
There is no war in Ba Sing Se, eh?
Bold move considering Crowder already got swathes of it leaked: https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/sources-june-11-2024
That's right it hasn't been released, some of it got leaked.
The part that got leaked was overtly a manifesto. She targeted white Christian kids intentionally and even didn’t do a middle school instead because she could have been considered racist
The leak also told us everything we needed to know about the little pooner and so much of it makes therapists, women, and the entire progressive ideology look bad that they literally cannot ever release it without it blowing up in their face.
She literally had pages upon pages of femcel rage about some black girl she never talked to not letting her ass fuck her with her mythical dick that never goes limp.
Imagine if the motive had been hatred of blacks, or Jews, or Muslims. As opposed to straights, whites, and Christians.
These same cops would be trumpeting it from day one
Just an insane troon copycatting government false flag shootings.
Well, certainly that closes that case
Honest question. Is it not time to make possessing video or images of crimes itself a crime? Consider, we already make possession of CP a crime, even if the possessor has never once manufactured any of it, using the legal theory that possession by itself increases demand, therefore the possessor is complicit in the manufacture. This has been a long held belief and is the sole legal rational behind criminalizing what amounts to pixels on a screen. We already accept this because we seek to reduce the manufacture of CP overall. Well we know that other types of criminals even more directly thrive on increased demand. The 'knock out game' for instance, only became popular because 'teens' saw others doing it on video on TikTok or Instagram and liked the fame they got from it and decided to do more. That is an actual provable direct link in the viewing or possessing of certain images or videos causing the occurrence of the crimes taking place in those videos to drastically increase. People have literally been murdered because those videos were allowed to spread. Would it not be reasonable to start treating videos or images of other crimes the same way we treat CP?
I'm not strictly suggestion we actually do that, but I am interested in real responses about why it is acceptable in one sort of case and not another. Is a 14yo who gets his head caved in on the sidewalk by some black because the black saw it on TikTok and wanted to be famous himself somehow less abused than the 14yo who took pictures of herself naked?
Its probably allowed without much fuss because those videos are usually the most irrefutable and readily available evidence of a crime even happening and who was involved, and many other details.
AKA, the thing the guys who enforce the law need to actually enforce that law. And criminalizing it will simply reduce their ability to actually do anything, because by the time they arrive its already too late. Heck the only reason more people aren't arrested for this right now is because of privacy type laws that prevent them from just getting all our info instantly by asking.
CP is considered so heinous that the idea is likely that you aren't an innocent bystander if you witness it, you are an accomplice by not acting. Probably similar with rape in general, but I've not seen too many cases of that to be certain. You can say that's not a good standard but it seems to be how most people fall on the thing.
So, you can criminalize it all, but then you basically cut off a lot of the evidence and ability to actually enforce those laws to begin with. And in exchange you arrest a lot of people who were just sitting at a computer not currently hurting anyone, which is just thought crimes and a danger slope to go down.
There are plenty of holes with this idea, but we also can't live in an idealized world were we can just perfectly control crime through passing laws either.
Well said!
Where does it stop? Snooping in everyone's media would take legions of people & cost a fortune. The actually evil people would still find ways to evade detection, while normal folks would be an open book to the Inquisition.
We all agree CP is bad. But who defines what it covers? Classic paintings like Mary Cassatt's "The Bath" (1893)? "Bath Time with Sister" painting by Harold Ellison (2014)? Both are SFW but I won't link them just in case.
What else gets regulated? Any form of violence? Any form of "bigotry"? Will we be like Europe where calling a Muslim child-rapist "a pig" sends you to jail for a longer sentence than he got for rape?
& etc.
Leftists will salivate & think these are great ideas! Imagining that they'll be in charge, not the target. Yes they're that dumb.
That's basically the foundation of how most of our laws versus freedom dichotomies work.
We let things go that maybe should be criminal, simply because we can never truly stop/prevent it for whatever reason and criminalizing it just drives it harder underground to prevent any attempt at confronting it.
And this only doesn't apply to the most awful and damaging of actions, CP, rape, hardcore drugs, prostitution, etc. Ones where there is no "ethical consumption" and thereby we cannot abide it in any form.
I think the setup for it as we have it in America is probably the most superior option, and all of the so called failings of it can be sanded off with better cultural and community action instead of more government and laws instead. If everytime a nigger got caught playing the knockout game, his family was shunned, his life destroyed, and social consequences were basically enough to internally regulate (whether his internally or just his family/neighborhood beating sense into him), then we wouldn't all need to give up our privacy to combat it.
I agree! Back when community standards were held in great value? People didn't need Ottawa or DC to tell them right from wrong.
My point in noting that such widespread authority was give to governments is that the 'good reasons' they started with, like fighting CP, end up becoming the literal Inquisition where people are grabbed for trivial, arbitrary "reasons" and tortured into confessing. And their money and land confiscated, of course. Actually this is already going on...