they have the history and data showing they do work way better
Have to wonder how it would go if they split the modern sample into "self-directed marriage" and "self-directed marriage without easy divorce." I doubt there was ever a time with arranged marriage and easy divorce* for obvious reasons.
Is it actually the choice of entering marriage that makes the difference or the presence of social incentives to make it work.
The data I am specifically thinking of was from a study/documentary done of arranged marriages in America (yes that means mostly Jeets) I covered in my undergrad. So they had easy access to the divorce but chose not to because it both worked out and they had extreme pressure from the families to not do so. I imagine divorcing the girl your mom literally arranged for you would get you disowned.
Of course there is a lot of factors and angles involved, like the fact that arranged marriages in the modern era are still mostly a Jeet thing, but of the small amount that still happen has a consistent trend of it being effective.
I do think the gap would narrow considerably with the return of Fault-Divorce or other major consequences for women trying to escape a marriage. When you know you are stuck with this person until death, you put in a lot more effort to make it work instead of imploding it.
At this point, I've heard enough cases of divorce rape with even arranged marriages, that the data you mentioned (and yes, I'd heard the same thing as well when I was in college) is likely no longer valid.
Apparently, it is now common in India for the bride's family to immediately turn on the groom as soon as the marriage is official. The wife refuses to have sex, threatens the husband and his family of suing him for rape and domestic violence, and demand that his family pay a ransom for her not ruining his life, and after they suck his family dry, she divorces him.
This is a scenario that seems to now be extremely common in India. It even happened to a guy that works with me, in the past year, after he'd asked his parents to find him a partner back in India.
It seems that our cherished western values of allowing frivolous divorces is successfully making its way around the world.
It seems that our cherished western values of allowing frivolous divorces is successfully making its way around the world.
Something passportbros have also been finding out about. I've heard more than a few tales of traditional foreign brides either turning out to be not so traditional after having a ring put on or quickly adapting to American culture in the worst way.
Have to wonder how it would go if they split the modern sample into "self-directed marriage" and "self-directed marriage without easy divorce." I doubt there was ever a time with arranged marriage and easy divorce* for obvious reasons.
Is it actually the choice of entering marriage that makes the difference or the presence of social incentives to make it work.
* retarded reality TV shows aside, I mean.
The data I am specifically thinking of was from a study/documentary done of arranged marriages in America (yes that means mostly Jeets) I covered in my undergrad. So they had easy access to the divorce but chose not to because it both worked out and they had extreme pressure from the families to not do so. I imagine divorcing the girl your mom literally arranged for you would get you disowned.
Of course there is a lot of factors and angles involved, like the fact that arranged marriages in the modern era are still mostly a Jeet thing, but of the small amount that still happen has a consistent trend of it being effective.
I do think the gap would narrow considerably with the return of Fault-Divorce or other major consequences for women trying to escape a marriage. When you know you are stuck with this person until death, you put in a lot more effort to make it work instead of imploding it.
At this point, I've heard enough cases of divorce rape with even arranged marriages, that the data you mentioned (and yes, I'd heard the same thing as well when I was in college) is likely no longer valid.
Apparently, it is now common in India for the bride's family to immediately turn on the groom as soon as the marriage is official. The wife refuses to have sex, threatens the husband and his family of suing him for rape and domestic violence, and demand that his family pay a ransom for her not ruining his life, and after they suck his family dry, she divorces him.
This is a scenario that seems to now be extremely common in India. It even happened to a guy that works with me, in the past year, after he'd asked his parents to find him a partner back in India.
It seems that our cherished western values of allowing frivolous divorces is successfully making its way around the world.
Something passportbros have also been finding out about. I've heard more than a few tales of traditional foreign brides either turning out to be not so traditional after having a ring put on or quickly adapting to American culture in the worst way.